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Ketamine for the acute treatment of severe suicidal ideation

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Re: Ketamine for the acute treatment of severe suicidal ideation

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I did a full 6 week course of ketamine therapy. It was really good, and I would recommend it if you're open minded. It's not for everyone, and the lasting (a year+) benefits aren't really measurable (maybe I'm different? maybe I'm not, maybe I've just gotten older). I'd like to go again and see if it can help with my obsessive existential dread.

Re: Ketamine for the acute treatment of severe suicidal ideation

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> Then, patients received a first 40 minute intravenous infusion of ketamine (0.5 mg/kg) or placebo 0.9% (saline solution) in addition to their current treatment.

This really shouldn’t be labeled as double blind.

1.The nurse administering knew if it was placebo or active (for safety reasons).

2. It would immediately become obvious to the subject if they were injected with salt water or ketamine.

3. Within minutes it would become obvious to everyone in the room if the patient was injected with salt water or ketamine.

Some trails are impossible to be double blind. That’s okay, there are other ways to address concerns of internal validity. Pretending like this trail is double blind does not address any internal validity concerns, and only raises concerns about the researchers understanding of experimental design.

Re: Ketamine for the acute treatment of severe suicidal ideation

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I did a full 6 week course of ketamine therapy. It was really good, and I would recommend it if you're open minded. It's not for everyone, and the lasting (a year+) benefits aren't really measurable (maybe I'm different? maybe I'm not, maybe I've just gotten older). I'd like to go again and see if it can help with my obsessive existential dread.

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Re: Ketamine for the acute treatment of severe suicidal ideation

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I did a full 6 week course of ketamine therapy. It was really good, and I would recommend it if you're open minded. It's not for everyone, and the lasting (a year+) benefits aren't really measurable (maybe I'm different? maybe I'm not, maybe I've just gotten older). I'd like to go again and see if it can help with my obsessive existential dread.

Absolutely, I have a partner who has had severe PTSD and went through a great month-long program, she's overcome many longstanding fears and triggers and has made huge strides in being able to feel that she is living her life once again.

Re: Ketamine for the acute treatment of severe suicidal ideation

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I did a full 6 week course of ketamine therapy. It was really good, and I would recommend it if you're open minded. It's not for everyone, and the lasting (a year+) benefits aren't really measurable (maybe I'm different? maybe I'm not, maybe I've just gotten older). I'd like to go again and see if it can help with my obsessive existential dread.

What's the process for this like? Been curious about the current state of psych medicine.

Re: Ketamine for the acute treatment of severe suicidal ideation

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> Then, patients received a first 40 minute intravenous infusion of ketamine (0.5 mg/kg) or placebo 0.9% (saline solution) in addition to their current treatment. This really shouldn’t be labeled as double blind. 1.The nurse administering knew if it was placebo or active (for safety reasons). 2. It would immediately become obvious to the subject if they were injected with salt water or ketamine. 3. Within minutes it…

Injecting some other psychoactive drug should work, at least for patients who have never used ketamine before.

But I suspect that would take many years to get through the permitting apparatus, if it was at all possible.

Re: Ketamine for the acute treatment of severe suicidal ideation

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I did a full 6 week course of ketamine therapy. It was really good, and I would recommend it if you're open minded. It's not for everyone, and the lasting (a year+) benefits aren't really measurable (maybe I'm different? maybe I'm not, maybe I've just gotten older). I'd like to go again and see if it can help with my obsessive existential dread.

what about how it felt early on / during the therapy ?

what about side effects also ?

Re: Ketamine for the acute treatment of severe suicidal ideation

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I did a full 6 week course of ketamine therapy. It was really good, and I would recommend it if you're open minded. It's not for everyone, and the lasting (a year+) benefits aren't really measurable (maybe I'm different? maybe I'm not, maybe I've just gotten older). I'd like to go again and see if it can help with my obsessive existential dread.

Absolutely, I have a partner who has had severe PTSD and went through a great month-long program, she's overcome many longstanding fears and triggers and has made huge strides in being able to feel that she is living her life once again.

May I recommend stellate gangelion block for PTSD .

https://youtu.be/nC2fBe6U7lg

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