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Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by Steltek »

ehsankia wrote: post #289
heavyset_go wrote: post #129

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YTM cannibalized Google Music, and replaced it with a service with less features. I don't see $10/mo for a lesser product as a good deal at all.

I'm curious what features did GPM have that YTM doesn't have?

GPM had podcast integration. Being a cloud service, it synced state to all my devices.

Until last month, kids could not use YTM. With the family plan, this was basically a DOS for years (or setup new kids accounts and lie about their age).

IMO, GPM's recommendations were much better.

We kept the family plan because of YTP and my wife and I still had access to music.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by izacus »

Gareth321 wrote: post #328
nonbirithm wrote: post #50

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For me, it made YouTube so tolerable that I would spend significant amounts of time on it. Sometimes I get the feeling that a side effect of adblockers is that they unintentionally act as enablers for addicting platforms. At times, it's worth thinking about what you're using adblock to accomplish at a higher level. For me it was subjecting myself to YouTube's recommendations for several more hours per day. Luckily I…

Years ago I drew a big red line in the sand for myself: no ads ever, for any reason, ever. If a service cannot fulfil this, I don't pay for it or use it. Makes the decision easy for me.

So does that mean you're paying for YouTube Premium (which explicitly stops showing ads when you give them those 10 bucks a month) or did you just move the goalposts here?

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by izacus »

Steltek wrote: post #361
ehsankia wrote: post #289

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious what features did GPM have that YTM doesn't have?

GPM had podcast integration. Being a cloud service, it synced state to all my devices. Until last month, kids could not use YTM. With the family plan, this was basically a DOS for years (or setup new kids accounts and lie about their age). IMO, GPM's recommendations were much better. We kept the family plan because of YTP and my wife and I still had access to music.

> GPM had podcast integration. Being a cloud service, it synced state to all my devices.

Wasn't that just moved to Google Podcasts? (Although, something like PocketCasts IMO is a better service.)

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by skydhash »

amanaplanacanal wrote: post #40
0des wrote: post #34

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Just a nitpick, the word it's does not imply possession, you are looking for 'its'. If you cannot substitute your usage of it's with 'it is' then it is the wrong one to use.

English spelling is so fucked up. Possessives normally have the apostrophe, except the possessive pronouns. Just because.

Possessives were the weird ones for me. I learned French at an early age, and you were just expected to learn the possessive pronouns. I did the same for English and while `it's` and `its` are similar, I've always considered the latter as its own thing, not something extrapolated from using the apostrophe as a possessive in English.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by Steltek »

izacus wrote: post #363
Steltek wrote: post #361

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GPM had podcast integration. Being a cloud service, it synced state to all my devices. Until last month, kids could not use YTM. With the family plan, this was basically a DOS for years (or setup new kids accounts and lie about their age). IMO, GPM's recommendations were much better. We kept the family plan because of YTP and my wife and I still had access to music.

> GPM had podcast integration. Being a cloud service, it synced state to all my devices. Wasn't that just moved to Google Podcasts? (Although, something like PocketCasts IMO is a better service.)

I had no idea that existed. From my perspective, the feature vanished into thin air. I wasn't a heavy podcast listener so this was kind of a Google Reader situation; I simply stopped listening to podcasts.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by addandsubtract »

4ggr0 wrote: post #267
dspillett wrote: post #179

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I draw the line before sponserblock. At that point you are taking money directly from the content creators, not YT or other platforms. I held out on blocking ads for some time, until it became impractical to avoid drive-by attacks other ways and the amount of stalking involved got _really_ creepy. If sponsor segments irritate me enough that I'd consider sponsorblock then I choose between paying for the content direct…

I am on YouTube since around 2009. I have never, ever bought something a YTer mentioned in a sponsored segment. They get paid just for talking about the products, what's the difference if I skip the segment manually, or if a plugin does it automatically?

IMO, quality wise, sponsored segments advertise better products than the YT ads. In most cases, they are tied to the video/creator and the creator talks and advertises them because they themselves use it. They feel a lot more organic and targeted than anything the YT algo ever showed me.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by refracture »

Sad as it is Google's got me.. I got a premium trial at some point and couldn't go back after it expired. For years I never cared because I only watched YouTube on my desktop with a adblocker, but now it's mostly on mobile or on a TV..

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by teddyh »

exploderate wrote: post #348
metadat wrote: post #58

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Thanks, I always get confused about this and believe it or not, I almost majored in English! Even trying to query Google for the correct rules for it's/its doesn't turn up clear, concise information as you've achieved here in two sentences. Tragically, it's another case of SEO'd to death .

This one is funny, maybe it helps: https://theoatmeal.com/comics/apostrophe

See also: https://www.angryflower.com/itsits.gif

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by znowcone »

dspillett wrote: post #339
Underphil wrote: post #243

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How is that taking money from the creators? They still get paid, and I don't have to watch a presentation about some garbage I'll never buy.

> How is that taking money from the creators? Long term if no one buys the sponsorships will fall off. > I'll never buy Of course if you know with absolutely 100% certainty that you'll never buy or mention to others (you might not need/want a WidgitotronAsAService, but maybe someone you know asks about them later) anything ever mentioned in a sponsor spot, then no there is no loss (and I envy your clairvoyance). I co…

I understand what you're trying to say but after watching the 972658th Raid Shadow Legends ad I just mash the right arrow as soon as I sense a segue to some sponsor because the chance that there's a good product behind a YT ad is around .3% and that's just not worth my time or attention
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