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Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

chii wrote: post #191
EMIRELADERO wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vanced didn't publish the letter, but I'd argue it was a code copyright issue. They applied patches to the original YouTube APK and then distributed it. If they had only distributed the patch diffs themselves and a tool to patch the user-provided YouTube app file, this wouldn't have happened.

The diff patches would be considered derivative, since you cannot make it without knowing the original.

IANAL, but this I don't think so; AIUI, the combined work is derivative, but patches are independent (at least where copyright is concerned).

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by lfkdev »

indigodaddy wrote: post #75

I pay for YTM, so haven’t ever tried any of these Adblocking things for YT. I think $10/mo is pretty decent for a music service and also the removal of all ads from YT (which includes their fairly decent library of free movies that would be ad-supported without YTM/YTP)

So you have sponsorblocking and the dislike addon in your Premium version? No. Thats the problem, vanced was even better than Premium YouTube. I have no problems with paying 10$, but it will still be worse than Vanced :(

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by mdoms »

sreevisakh wrote: post #180
mdoms wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about financially supporting the people whose content you consume?

Content creators should create a patreon account or similar. YouTube is notorious for pulling the rug from under the creators. There is no shame in not wanting to fund it.

Many content creators do have Patreon accounts and I even support a few of them. But frankly I'm not going to subscribe to Patreon for more than a tiny fraction of the dozens of creators I watch on Youtube. I'd go broke.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by zachberger »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #122
indigodaddy wrote: post #75

I pay for YTM, so haven’t ever tried any of these Adblocking things for YT. I think $10/mo is pretty decent for a music service and also the removal of all ads from YT (which includes their fairly decent library of free movies that would be ad-supported without YTM/YTP)

Enabled the YouTube app to check it out and it's still trash. Quickly disabled. It's not about the money- it's about respecting the user. The app is so full of garbage I won't pay for it. The day they shut down NewPipe is the day I just stop using YouTube on my phone and tv.

> it's still trash > The app is so full of garbage

Can you elaborate?

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

chrysoprace wrote: post #74
fuckcensorship wrote: post #2

NewPipe [1] is an open-source alternative, although latest versions of Vanced will supposedly keep working for the foreseeable future [2]. [1]: https://newpipe.net/ [2]: https://nitter.net/YTVanced/status/1503055442506915846#m

As others have noted, NewPipe lacks a lot of functionality, polish, and just generally breaks far too frequently. I'm in the tech industry so I can deal with the app breaking occasionally, but during my stint using it, it was almost every month that it broke. My girlfriend who has some technical knowledge just gave up on it because it was too frustrating that it kept breaking, and not only that, the devs urged users…

> the devs urged users to download from GitHub instead of F-Droid.

F-Droid adds lag to the build+publish process; cutting out the slow middleman is sensible if you want fast fixes.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

hyperhopper wrote: post #200
andy_ppp wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find it so irritating that Google essentially exists as a giant scraping system and they have the legal ability to persecute anyone taking content hosted on their platforms. Hypocrisy should be a legal defence in my opinion, i.e. if you take public content and repurpose it for your own needs you shouldn’t be allowed to sue for the same reason.

This is just about YouTube. What part of YouTube is scraping?

Not exactly "scraping", but YT became popular largely through hosting pirated content, which is close.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by Nexxxeh »

metadat wrote: post #58
0des wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just a nitpick, the word it's does not imply possession, you are looking for 'its'. If you cannot substitute your usage of it's with 'it is' then it is the wrong one to use.

Thanks, I always get confused about this and believe it or not, I almost majored in English! Even trying to query Google for the correct rules for it's/its doesn't turn up clear, concise information as you've achieved here in two sentences. Tragically, it's another case of SEO'd to death .

You know what they say. "It's what it's."

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by mhh__ »

izacus wrote: post #44
Drainik wrote: post #19

Would it be possible to use it if the source code is forked?

There isn't really a "source code" per-se for Vanced, they took the official YouTube app, decompiled it, applied hacks and recompiled it - pretty much very much the same way we hacked key checks and CD copy protections back in the day. So if there's anything resembling source, it's more of a diff of a certain YouTube app version you can't just cleanly upload somewhere or even apply to new versions.

Seeing as we are probably due for reduced rights (e.g. pay a subscription to listen in the background) and inflated fees for those rights, it would be interesting to develop some kind of distributed way for people to (basically anonymously) develop these binary hacks i.e. you effectively have a git-in-2005 model where all nodes (patches) are equals but some more equal than others.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by mynameismon »

metadat wrote: post #92
CPAhem wrote: post #62

For those who have the ability to do so, please make an Archive of all the Vanced Versions before the download links are taken down https://mirror.codebucket.de/vanced/

Quoted post unavailable.

Also previously in 2021: adding Google Docs/Slides/Sheets and Google Photos to the storage limit of 15GB.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by Nexxxeh »

stavros wrote: post #128
2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a NewPipe user. I just think distributing a cracked version of somebody else's app calls for being sued.

Define "cracked" here. Is it a crack to add a feature to an app, for example?

Not grandparent poster, but I think the easiest definition would be:

"Removing the revenue stream for the original app author through modification or bypass."

Just because you're paying through advertising rather than cash doesn't make it any less of a crack or any less piracy.

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