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Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by chii »

EMIRELADERO wrote: post #189
sreevisakh wrote: post #173

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What is the reason for the cease and desist? Code license or use of content? If it's the latter, then NewPipe won't survive either. We really need an alternative to YouTube, not another frontend to this exploitative platform.

Vanced didn't publish the letter, but I'd argue it was a code copyright issue. They applied patches to the original YouTube APK and then distributed it. If they had only distributed the patch diffs themselves and a tool to patch the user-provided YouTube app file, this wouldn't have happened.

The diff patches would be considered derivative, since you cannot make it without knowing the original.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by opan »

quantum_magpie wrote: post #133
metadat wrote: post #92

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>- I feel like I'm forgetting another one or two other ralphy shits they've taken on us so far in 2022. Force people to give up phone number if they want to use gmail over IMAP

Ah, yes. TOTP can't be primary 2fa and isn't even a choice unless you add sms 2fa. You can remove the sms method after, but still very sketchy and unfortunate.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by hyperhopper »

sonicggg wrote: post #39

That's disappointing. I was in awe on how much better an alternative modded app was, when compared to the official one from Google, which supposedly has the "best" developers working on it.

How are you in awe? Google developers and vanced developers have different objectives. Of course the apps would have different experiences.

Also the vanced devs got to use the decompiled Google app. Not like they started from scratch and made a better app.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by entropie »

hunter2_ wrote: post #181
galangalalgol wrote: post #116

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I always watch YT in firefox with ublock origin on, it seems to work 100%. It seems like pi-hole would work well too, but my router insists on providing a backup dns server when my pihole fails to find something... Need to go get a new one, preferably meshable.

There are a few ways to get your client devices to use the pihole: - configure each client device accordingly (very inconvenient, but mentioning it for completeness) - configure your router's DHCP service to tell clients that the DNS server is [IP address of pihole] instead of [IP address of router] - configure your router's upstream DNS to be [IP address of pihole] instead of [what your modem offers] and leave the D…

Many (including google) devices use hardcoded DNS settings. You also need firewall rules to prvent them from using 8.8.8.8 and friends.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

#195

Post by getcrunk »

girvo wrote: post #190
metadat wrote: post #92

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Tbh I just pay for YT premium. I hate ads that much and always said I’d pay to avoid them. Money where my mouth is.

I also pay for premium, but vanced is how I block shorts and sponsor block

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

#196

Post by EMIRELADERO »

chii wrote: post #191
EMIRELADERO wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vanced didn't publish the letter, but I'd argue it was a code copyright issue. They applied patches to the original YouTube APK and then distributed it. If they had only distributed the patch diffs themselves and a tool to patch the user-provided YouTube app file, this wouldn't have happened.

The diff patches would be considered derivative, since you cannot make it without knowing the original.

Courts have interpreted derivative works to be so when at least some parts of it contain the original copyrighted work. If that test fails, the whole derivative work argument is null and void.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by hunter2_ »

entropie wrote: post #194
hunter2_ wrote: post #181

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There are a few ways to get your client devices to use the pihole: - configure each client device accordingly (very inconvenient, but mentioning it for completeness) - configure your router's DHCP service to tell clients that the DNS server is [IP address of pihole] instead of [IP address of router] - configure your router's upstream DNS to be [IP address of pihole] instead of [what your modem offers] and leave the D…

Many (including google) devices use hardcoded DNS settings. You also need firewall rules to prvent them from using 8.8.8.8 and friends.

Ah, good point. With those firewall rules in place, do such devices seamlessly fall back to whatever they DNS they learned from DHCP?

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

#198

Post by nohuck13 »

cortesoft wrote: post #83
0des wrote: post #35

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The people here don't use that term, and they aren't the type to accept it. You get what I mean? It's only associated with bad outcomes here.

I have never heard the term. What does it mean?

> "This post glows"

That didn't used to be a "g" there, would be my guess.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

#199

Post by geerlingguy »

getcrunk wrote: post #195
girvo wrote: post #190

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Tbh I just pay for YT premium. I hate ads that much and always said I’d pay to avoid them. Money where my mouth is.

I also pay for premium, but vanced is how I block shorts and sponsor block

Honestly YouTube should have a way to disable shorts in app. They're trying to pull an Instagram and stomp on TikTok's grounds, but it doesn't feel like it's working and it feels like how Instagram went from being a simple photo sharing tool to being a bloated mess with four major interfaces in one.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by hyperhopper »

andy_ppp wrote: post #76
sphars wrote: post #10

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I use NewPipe frequently. It's rumored that Vanced was sent a cease and desist (which seems pretty likely). Out of curiosity, what are the chances that NewPipe will face the same fate?

I find it so irritating that Google essentially exists as a giant scraping system and they have the legal ability to persecute anyone taking content hosted on their platforms. Hypocrisy should be a legal defence in my opinion, i.e. if you take public content and repurpose it for your own needs you shouldn’t be allowed to sue for the same reason.

This is just about YouTube. What part of YouTube is scraping?
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