I died and was brought back to life. Still have memories.
Did I just debunk the paper?
Electric fields, not individual neurons, may hold information in memory: study
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Re: Electric fields, not individual neurons, may hold information in memory: study
#42So, we're back from "your body is your mind" to "the mind is something electrial floating around your cells"?
This makes me sleep a bit better, I think.
Re: Electric fields, not individual neurons, may hold information in memory: study
#43This may be too meta for this forum, but I would like to point out that the brain theory as a whole has become so incomprehensibly complex that I am beginning to think that the brain has little to do with intention and memory storage . Point in fact: as we are now hundreds of years into medical research and we still can't figure out how the brain stores memory. Or what physical structure a memory even is. And I am su…
Do you suggest intention and memory storage arise from soul or other non physical phenomena?
We're looking in the wrong place, probably.
I'd start in the gut, considering the cells are quite similar.
Re: Electric fields, not individual neurons, may hold information in memory: study
#44Although it is a very interesting paper, and I am by no means qualified to even understand half of it, while reading up representational drift I was much more convinced by another (and a bit more recent) paper portraying the phenomenon as a way for the brain to switch up the physical layout of the firing neurons in a redundant population without altering the output. All that possibly for biological reasons (ie dead n…
Was this the paper you're speaking of? "Self-healing codes: How stable neural populations can track continually reconfiguring neural representations": https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.2106692119 It came out about a month ago, and I've just started reading it. But it talks about neural drift, and they actually were able to create a model for it.
If interested, this is the press release for that paper: http://www.eng.cam.ac.uk/news/study-proposes-how-changes-neu...
And in that release, it ends like this:
"Dr O’Leary, Associate Professor in the Department of Engineering, said the study emphasises the idea that “drift” may arise from continual learning.
“There is a huge unanswered challenge in artificial intelligence, namely the problem of building algorithms that can learn continually without corrupting previously learned information,” he said. “The brain manifestly achieves this, and this work is a step in the direction of finding algorithms that can do the same.”"
Re: Electric fields, not individual neurons, may hold information in memory: study
#45So, we're back from "your body is your mind" to "the mind is something electrial floating around your cells"? This makes me sleep a bit better, I think.
"Something electrical floating around your cells" isn't just the mind either, it's also how the organism coordinates its development: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XheAMrS8Q1c
Re: Electric fields, not individual neurons, may hold information in memory: study
#46There was a story I heard about the autistic guy who volunteered for transcranial magnetic stimulation. Those have been known to temporarily shift someone autistic into a consciousness state that is more neurotypical. In his case (and it is the only documented case), it was permanent. He wrote a book about it. His marriage ended because of it (he had been a reliable emotional support for his wife while autistic), but…
Do you have a link or some key words I could use to try and find that story?
I remember it from the cover[0], it's titled "Switched On: A Memoir of Brain Change and Emotional Awakening".
[0]: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91mEWtZ15qL...
Re: Electric fields, not individual neurons, may hold information in memory: study
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you suggest intention and memory storage arise from soul or other non physical phenomena?
We're looking in the wrong place, probably. I'd start in the gut, considering the cells are quite similar.
People with gut cancer get their gut removed regularly, sometimes a big chunk of the guts. Do they lose their memories?
Re: Electric fields, not individual neurons, may hold information in memory: study
#48I died and was brought back to life. Still have memories. Did I just debunk the paper?
Death for something as complex as the human body isn’t a binary state.
Re: Electric fields, not individual neurons, may hold information in memory: study
#49I died and was brought back to life. Still have memories. Did I just debunk the paper?
Depends on the definition of death.
Re: Electric fields, not individual neurons, may hold information in memory: study
#50So a strong enough electric field could disrupt our memories? I’m skeptical…