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My transition from Windows to Linux in an anti-customer age

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Re: My transition from Windows to Linux in an anti-customer age

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Post by diffeomorphism »

Gareth321 wrote: post #6

Fair comments but as someone who has tried many times to adopt Linux, I can honestly state that nothing in Windows comes close to the user-hostile UX approach in Linux. For example, Radarr is an extremely popular tool for managing movies. It connects to usenet and torrent clients, as well as indexers and movie databases. It makes maintaining a home movie collection seamless. Radarr is not in major package managers, a…

Is servarr in the windows store? If not, it might as well not exist.

Just because users have been trained to download .exe's from random, unvetted websites that does not make it any less insane. See android, see iOS (and by now also windows) who all agree how insane that is.

Re: My transition from Windows to Linux in an anti-customer age

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Post by bombcar »

thetopher wrote: post #10
SBArbeit wrote: post #5

It's good to know that this year is the year of the Linux Desktop. Just like last year. And the year before that. And the year before...

As an old Slashdot reader, I came looking for a comment like this. Thanks for not disappointing.

NetCraft confirms, *BSD is still dead.

The year of the Linux Desktop was Android.

Re: My transition from Windows to Linux in an anti-customer age

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Post by shawnb576 »

Every time I try this I go thru standard stages:

1. Ugh I want to run docker natively, Ubuntu looks good, I’ll do that 2. Install latest Ubuntu. It’s great! Love the shell. Hardware works. I can run Windows in Virtual Box for odd apps. 3. Why is my battery life so bad? Why won’t Bluetooth stay connected? 4. I am full Linux. I am living the creed! 5. I am so tired of constantly fixing something. Why is Spotify rendering weird. Why doesn’t mouse scroll work in Firefox. 6. I don’t have time for this. Back to Windows.

I think now that WSL has matured, it’s just hard to justify going back. Everything works and I get real Linux.

Re: My transition from Windows to Linux in an anti-customer age

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Post by gaius_baltar »

pkulak wrote: post #25
michaelcampbell wrote: post #14

> In 2015 when Windows 10 rebooted my machine to automatically install an update, closing down an unsaved document I was in the middle of working on, Do I have some magic aura that causes Microsoft to give me at least a 12 hour warning about updates? Because I honestly can't remember a time this sort of thing (instant update, no warning) has ever happened to me with Windows. I love Linux and do as much as I can for m…

I tend to ignore anything Windows tries to tell me because it’s usually an ad or otherwise useless.

I usually tell people near me: If Windows (or Android and iOS, on this matter) wants to do X, assume it is an user-unfriendly move and do the inverse of X.

Re: My transition from Windows to Linux in an anti-customer age

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Post by Ourgon »

SBArbeit wrote: post #5

It's good to know that this year is the year of the Linux Desktop. Just like last year. And the year before that. And the year before...

1996 was the year for Linux on the desktop. FVWM, then Windomaker, then Sawmill/Sawfish, now Xmonad. Never looked back. From working at a publisher to doing development work at several companies to freelancing as hacker for hire to giving my 80+ mother a safe desktop to do administration and finances on while I live some 1300 km to the north of her, Linux rules the roost.

Why? Because it works. No nasty surprises, no forced upgrades, no nonsense.

Re: My transition from Windows to Linux in an anti-customer age

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Post by reset-password »

For anyone else in the "thinking about it" to "preparing for it" stage of the switch, I've been getting myself ready by switching to cross-platform software one piece at a time while still daily driving a Windows machine.

In past failed attempts to switch it just was too jarring for everything to be different all at once. But now that I've already replaced all the Windows exclusive software in my life, I expect that next time I try full-timing on Linux again it will feel more like visiting the next town over than it will visiting a foreign country.

Re: My transition from Windows to Linux in an anti-customer age

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Post by jenscow »

Gareth321 wrote: post #6

Fair comments but as someone who has tried many times to adopt Linux, I can honestly state that nothing in Windows comes close to the user-hostile UX approach in Linux. For example, Radarr is an extremely popular tool for managing movies. It connects to usenet and torrent clients, as well as indexers and movie databases. It makes maintaining a home movie collection seamless. Radarr is not in major package managers, a…

There's no technical limitation for Radarr to provide a package file that can be downloaded.

Re: My transition from Windows to Linux in an anti-customer age

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Post by pizza234 »

Gareth321 wrote: post #6

Fair comments but as someone who has tried many times to adopt Linux, I can honestly state that nothing in Windows comes close to the user-hostile UX approach in Linux. For example, Radarr is an extremely popular tool for managing movies. It connects to usenet and torrent clients, as well as indexers and movie databases. It makes maintaining a home movie collection seamless. Radarr is not in major package managers, a…

> For example, Radarr is an extremely popular tool for managing movies

Radarr definitely doesn't represent the status of Linux projects packaging; not providing any package is uncommon.

The vast majority of open source projects provide repositories, application packages, binaries (if one wants the latest-and-greatest version; the base repositories of the most common distros typically have almost anything under the sun).

As a matter of fact, Radarr's twin, Sonarr, provides repositories (https://sonarr.tv/#downloads-v3-linux), and snaps (e.g. https://snapcraft.io/install/sonarr/debian).

Re: My transition from Windows to Linux in an anti-customer age

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Post by newaccount2021 »

Gareth321 wrote: post #6

Fair comments but as someone who has tried many times to adopt Linux, I can honestly state that nothing in Windows comes close to the user-hostile UX approach in Linux. For example, Radarr is an extremely popular tool for managing movies. It connects to usenet and torrent clients, as well as indexers and movie databases. It makes maintaining a home movie collection seamless. Radarr is not in major package managers, a…

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Re: My transition from Windows to Linux in an anti-customer age

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Post by ratboy666 »

Gareth321 wrote: post #6

Fair comments but as someone who has tried many times to adopt Linux, I can honestly state that nothing in Windows comes close to the user-hostile UX approach in Linux. For example, Radarr is an extremely popular tool for managing movies. It connects to usenet and torrent clients, as well as indexers and movie databases. It makes maintaining a home movie collection seamless. Radarr is not in major package managers, a…

So... what I say... if you want to use Linux, go ahead. But, know WHAT and WHY you are doing this. If you simply say "it's not Windows" -- not good enough. Yes, Linux is not Windows. It is ALSO not a Mac OS/X. So, why are you attempting, "many times" to adopt Linux? I honestly have no idea what "Radarr" is, or why on earth I would want it. If I did care, I would have a reason to use Windows. As it is, I don't. My use case is a good and reliable Posix platform, with good tooling. That is provided by Linux -- indeed, I use Fedora. Been that way for over 25 years. I need Java, but not .NET. My use cases... not yours.

I don't care about "package managers" Usenet is web for me (google groups), CLI is not an issue; indeed I prefer it, given my history. I find Windows UX/UI to be extremely difficult. I suggest that you do NOT consider Linux to be a competitor to Windows. It really isn't. Windows had been forced to run Linux. In full compatibility. This is supported by Microsoft -- unlike Wine is is somewhat there. If I needed Windows, I would run Windows, and use WSL.

The odd thing here is that Windows "blinked first". The existence of WSL means Linux has won. If I sent you a Linux binary, I would tell you to install WSL and then just run it. I can also send you JVM stuff to run. .NET? Haven't needed to bother with it.

Have I tried many times to adopt Windows? Frankly, no. If it doesn't work with Fedora, I generally just don't care, and move on.

FredW

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