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What the Russian Invasion Has Done to Ukraine

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Re: What the Russian Invasion Has Done to Ukraine

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Post by [deleted] »

ShivShankaran wrote: post #24
chitza wrote: post #23

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You have a very submissive attitude. Do you do the same when a thug threatens your family? Or when bullies at school ask for your lunch? You just give it to them? Sorry, but your comment is pathetic.

Ukraine is being egged on by US to fight a war it cannot win. They have a clear way out and it's gut wrenching that they want to continue fighting. As for your anecdote if someone was stabbing me and wanted my wallet/bank/whatever, I will throw it in. Stand on the graves of a million dead people and ask them if honor matters. Their silence will be your answer.

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Re: What the Russian Invasion Has Done to Ukraine

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Post by djohnston »

ShivShankaran wrote: post #24
chitza wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have a very submissive attitude. Do you do the same when a thug threatens your family? Or when bullies at school ask for your lunch? You just give it to them? Sorry, but your comment is pathetic.

Ukraine is being egged on by US to fight a war it cannot win. They have a clear way out and it's gut wrenching that they want to continue fighting. As for your anecdote if someone was stabbing me and wanted my wallet/bank/whatever, I will throw it in. Stand on the graves of a million dead people and ask them if honor matters. Their silence will be your answer.

Your rhetoric is meaningless. Plenty of people have died for honor that would answer in the affirmative if not dead. That you have a blindspot to that sort of self sacrifice means nothing on behalf of the people fighting for Ukraine.

Re: What the Russian Invasion Has Done to Ukraine

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Post by readthenotes1 »

ShivShankaran wrote: post #25
_paulc wrote: post #22

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6 day old account that has only posted Russian talking points - hmmmm

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Steven Brust has one of his characters claim that the aggressors are the ones who defend against an attack, since they are the ones stopping an action.

Of course, that only makes sense if you're a sociopath, as his character was.

Re: What the Russian Invasion Has Done to Ukraine

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Post by akomtu »

ShivShankaran wrote: post #20

Russia has 4 clear demands. Why not just give it to them? reject nato, recognize crimea, demilitarize. Putin is a crazy genocidal maniac and war is worse than hell since innocents suffer. Why argue about the 4 points and prolong the war? I never understood Zelensky and his obsession to remain in power as well as force all men of Ukraine to fight the war. The west is also glorifying the ukrainian excessively and resul…

Putin basically asks Ukraine if it would be so kind to disarm itself and make the invasion easy.

Re: What the Russian Invasion Has Done to Ukraine

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Post by dzikimarian »

webmobdev wrote: post #7
aurizon wrote: post #4

What it has done is create a country full of people who hate Russia, who will escape, sabotage, destroy every aspect of Russia. It has also shown it's own Russian population that another Stalin/Hitler walks in the halls of power(he dare not walk amongst them!!) - who will escape, sabotage, destroy every aspect of Russia from within, and it has shown who the real beast is. After the USSR fragmented, we all hoped we co…

> NATO slowly started to wind down via budgetary strangulation heading towards the fate of the not needed - NO MORE - NATO budgets are upped by ~~ 100% And that's exactly what the US wanted and that's why they deliberately interfered in Ukraine politics - to bait Russia. After the propaganda fades away, we'll know the reality of how the world has actually changed in both Ukraine and Russia.

Yeah, every single country in the region clawed their way out of Russian sphere of influence (or tries, including even Belarus), but it's NATO's fault. Totally nothing to do, with years of being kept back in order to feed oligarchs.

Re: What the Russian Invasion Has Done to Ukraine

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Post by dzikimarian »

ShivShankaran wrote: post #20

Russia has 4 clear demands. Why not just give it to them? reject nato, recognize crimea, demilitarize. Putin is a crazy genocidal maniac and war is worse than hell since innocents suffer. Why argue about the 4 points and prolong the war? I never understood Zelensky and his obsession to remain in power as well as force all men of Ukraine to fight the war. The west is also glorifying the ukrainian excessively and resul…

Ukraine has once signed demilitarization treaty. We can see how it went for them.

Next year Putin will be in western Ukraine. Then after that in Latvia or Poland. Where are we going to resist? At Berlin or Paris?

Re: What the Russian Invasion Has Done to Ukraine

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Post by primax »

ShivShankaran wrote: post #24
chitza wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have a very submissive attitude. Do you do the same when a thug threatens your family? Or when bullies at school ask for your lunch? You just give it to them? Sorry, but your comment is pathetic.

Ukraine is being egged on by US to fight a war it cannot win. They have a clear way out and it's gut wrenching that they want to continue fighting. As for your anecdote if someone was stabbing me and wanted my wallet/bank/whatever, I will throw it in. Stand on the graves of a million dead people and ask them if honor matters. Their silence will be your answer.

You should study some history of the second World War and learn how appeasement went with Hitler.

Re: What the Russian Invasion Has Done to Ukraine

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Post by primax »

ShivShankaran wrote: post #20

Russia has 4 clear demands. Why not just give it to them? reject nato, recognize crimea, demilitarize. Putin is a crazy genocidal maniac and war is worse than hell since innocents suffer. Why argue about the 4 points and prolong the war? I never understood Zelensky and his obsession to remain in power as well as force all men of Ukraine to fight the war. The west is also glorifying the ukrainian excessively and resul…

This comment is the 'she dressed provocatively so she deserved it' of war justifications.

You should be ashamed.

Re: What the Russian Invasion Has Done to Ukraine

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Post by ShivShankaran »

djohnston wrote: post #28
ShivShankaran wrote: post #25

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Your points are weak comrade. I will try and transfer some rubles for further training, but beware we have been experiencing overflow errors recently.

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