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Yes, offices become quarantine sites if someone test positive.
Sounds like a good way to get everyone there infected.
Yes, but they won't spread it to their families/neighbors.
Tell HN: China Is Entering Lockdown
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> Now I think about it, why is GB not called BB? Because it doesn’t scale. Giga is the metric prefix for “times billion”. However, large (and small) numbers don’t end there. What about Quadrillion and Quintillion? What about milli and micro?
OK, so what you mean is, million and mega happen to share the initial, and trillion and tera happen to share too, but billion and giga happen to not share an initial.
Also, the metric prefixes are used cross language, and the ms, bs, and ts aren't the same cross language
Re: Tell HN: China Is Entering Lockdown
#253As of yesterday after vacillating for some weeks with temporary local lockdowns and transport service suspensions, Shenzhen is now under near-total lockdown. All non-essential/infrastructure businesses must close ("WFH"). Cars cannot move freely in or out until the 18th (yesterday this was announced as a single one-way transit per vehicle only, perhaps today no transit). Buses and metro are shut down until the 20th. Unclear policy regarding domestic courier services, but most likely temporarily shut. One person per family may leave a house once per day for food purchasing. Panic food purchasing reportedly began yesterday.
The food situation will surely be fine, but businesses should anticipate immediate electronics supply chain and manufacturing delays as a result of the lockdown.
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#254The pandemic response globally has been a case study in what not to do. A perfect storm of misinformation and fear, plus a healthy dose of opportunism. Now the CDC is straight up withholding data in case we “misinterpret” it. [1] [1] https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20220222/report-cdc-not-publ...
No, just no.
Yes, there’s been hiccups. Yes, misinformation made rounds.
But we formulated safe and effective vaccines in months for it, rolled them out in ridiculous speeds and saved many lives.
In contrast to past pandemics, we’ve handled this ridiculously well and we owe our butts to recent advancements in mRNA tech.
So no, historically speaking, it’s been a case study of “there’s been problems, but an overwhelming success”.
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#255It seems the 0-covid policy is a negative consequence of having so many people so close together. It changes the dynamic of infectious diseases so that you suddenly have 100k people die instead of 100. Still, I am strongly against lockdowns and mandates and so on. The cure is much worse than the disease from my perspective. I have no concern over covid, all of my concern is over what the government will do next. Will…
.I am strongly against lockdowns and mandates and so on. The cure is much worse than the disease from my perspective. I have no concern over covid, all of my concern is over what the government will do next. Thanks for stating that. Even if a disease killed everyone there should never be a lockdown in a truly free society. It follows that no society is free...
What did it do next after the Spanish flu lock downs? This isn't uncharted territory
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Omnicron in particular is so low impact that the response is primarily political, especially when you have vaccines and some pre existing immunity. Countries can choose to pretty much ignore it or go crazy over it as the politicians and Twitter demand. We just got bored of it in the UK and moved onto Boris’s parties and now Ukraine.
Omicron could be the best thing that happened -- a mild, very infectious variant that gives everyone NATURAL herd immunity to the entire coronavirus family. Why are politicians so afraid of it?
While I agree with your statement. If you look at the present condition of medical facilities in Hong Kong, and imagine that situation reaching 1.4 billion people in a relatively short time. Also these people unlike many Westerner's probably don't have anti bodies from previous Covid-19 infections.
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I wouldn't bet on Omicron being non-threatening. Omicron is less threatening not because it's weaker, but because people have been either vaccinated or exposed before. Now the question is how effective are Chinese vaccines against Omicron (in terms of making symptoms less severe). Still needs to wait and see, probably in the coming weeks.
"Omicron is less threatening not because it's weaker, but because people have been either vaccinated or exposed before." Omicron likes the bronchi more than the lungs, which translates into a lot less pneumonia cases. That is the reason why so few people die of Omicron.
"so few" ... yet enough that our area stayed in maximum stage for an awful long time after case counts came down because the ICU system was so clogged by the unvaccinated.
The lag was because a lot of those people left in body bags. And the ones who survived left in pretty bad shape.
Omicron may not be as fatal percentage-wise, but it's still plenty fatal and a LOT more contagious so it's got numbers on its side.
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Did someone need any pills? As a person that takes medication daily, this would be extremely painful for me.
It is a whole different ruleset. In earlier China lockdowns there were stories of infants starving to death after their parents were forcibly locked down.
Jesus Christ, that's brutal
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Did someone need any pills? As a person that takes medication daily, this would be extremely painful for me.
It is a whole different ruleset. In earlier China lockdowns there were stories of infants starving to death after their parents were forcibly locked down.
that's very different than the story my relatives in china told me. While in quarantine, government sets up dedicated teams of delivery personnel to deliver daily necessities. While the lock down is strict, you are by no means in any danger.
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#260Earlier quoted context omitted.
Omnicron in particular is so low impact that the response is primarily political, especially when you have vaccines and some pre existing immunity. Countries can choose to pretty much ignore it or go crazy over it as the politicians and Twitter demand. We just got bored of it in the UK and moved onto Boris’s parties and now Ukraine.
Omicron could be the best thing that happened -- a mild, very infectious variant that gives everyone NATURAL herd immunity to the entire coronavirus family. Why are politicians so afraid of it?
Because a large number of people are dying.