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For those who are still looking for dumb tvs these are the best ones available as far as I'm aware. Bought one last year and works as expected. https://www.sceptre.com/TV/4K-UHD-TV-category1category73.htm...
Is there something wrong with just buying a normal TV and not giving it your wifi password?
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I can always deny internet via MAC address, but a modern panel that just turns on instantly and works is the stuff of dreams.
You can buy them, commercial displays, but they are... quite expensive.
The "Smart TVs" are subsidized because they're robbing you and your mother of your privacy and security.
Don't get it twisted.
Praise be the folks that curate these lists. Even without a pi-hole you can plug these into any firewall for your brand(s). More annoying is the 15 second "home menu" that pops up on my OLED every time it is turned on. I almost always forget to manually dismiss it before I set the remote down and there's no option I can find to disable it. I would pay a premium for a TV with no internet connection.
>I would pay a premium for a TV with no internet connection. No premium required. Just set your TV's with a static IP address and block outbound access to that address at your firewall. I also blackhole the DNS entries of specific hosts that the TV attempts to contact. Blocking the IP address is sufficient, but I choose to nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. ;)
If you're assuming the TV is malicious, why trust it to honor that static IP setting? Doesn't even have to be malicious - a bug or carelessness could mean that it temporarily falls back to DHCP for some time in the boot process.
A separate VLAN (or wireless network) with the entire thing isolated and not being able to talk to anything is the way to go, but there just aren't many reasons to connect it to a network to begin with so save your time and just don't.
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You don't need a separate router. If you don't give the TV the password to your WiFi it won't be able to connect.
Until they do a deal with Amazon to use Sidewalk, or the ROI on putting a cellular modem in works for them.
Praise be the folks that curate these lists. Even without a pi-hole you can plug these into any firewall for your brand(s). More annoying is the 15 second "home menu" that pops up on my OLED every time it is turned on. I almost always forget to manually dismiss it before I set the remote down and there's no option I can find to disable it. I would pay a premium for a TV with no internet connection.
You can install Lineage OS android TV on raspberry pi and use the TV as a dumb screen connecting to the pi
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Is there something wrong with just buying a normal TV and not giving it your wifi password?
They soon will be able to connect to your neighbour's wifi via Amazon Sidewalk
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Just as long as you never have any guests that want to be helpful and connect it to the Internet either via your guest wifi or their own phone's hotspot so they can watch their Netflix or whatever on it.
Or you accidentally connect it to your streaming box (Apple TV, Roku) with an HDMI cable with Ethernet: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#HDMI_Ethernet_and_Audio_R...
There's no reason to believe this won't be a configurable option on the box itself, but this is a moot point because I have yet to see anything in the wild actually supporting Ethernet over HDMI.
I don't get it. Also down below there's even a whole comment chain about how "hard it is" to buy a dumb TV. Why bother with all this blocking, just disable the surveillance entirely. Change your wifi password, don't give the new one to the TV, and use a computer as input. A TV is a big dumb monitor, full stop.
The ability to wirelessly transmit to a TV on the LAN, without the ability of the TV to connect to the internet is valuable to me.
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The fines are the same for both. It’s like Bill gates doesn’t really care if he runs every red light camera on the way home but his maid does.
The fines aren't the same. They scale with damage entity and company turnover. See art. 83 of GDPR: https://gdpr-info.eu/art-83-gdpr/
I just manually unchecked the cookie permissions for a couple of hundred different ad companies on my Samsung TV. Using my remote. Of course there was a button to accept all of them, but not reject them. How one of the worlds largest companies sells stuff that so blatantly violates the GDPR while web developers at tiny companies sweat over whether we can save an IP for five minutes is beyond me.
> while web developers at tiny companies sweat over whether we can save an IP for five minutes is beyond me Maybe they shouldn’t? Either block European traffic or do whatever you want and figure it out later when you’re big enough to be on somebody’s radar.