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Telegram Cooperates with FSB (Rus)

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Re: Telegram Cooperates with FSB (Rus)

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Telegram is the only platform where I have been able to get uncensored footage of the Ukraine conflict from a civilian perspective. Of course there is a lot of propaganda, but I get to see the destruction and war crimes from both sides with my own eyes. Recommended channels(NSFL) : https://t.me/kyivoperativ https://t.me/intelslava https://t.me/WORLD18WAR https://t.me/Yediotnews https://t.me/asbmil https://t.me/AtlasN…

You also have 4chan, naturally.

Re: Telegram Cooperates with FSB (Rus)

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They have a clear picture of users' social networks because of their dubious requirement that people provide them with working mobile numbers. Who speaks to whom, how frequently, during what times and what days of the week etc. Incredibly valuable and revealing data.

The opposite is the truth. The signal servers don't know who talks to whom, and they chose phone number as identifier specifically so the app could use your local address book for contacts and not store your contacts server side.

Are you real? There is no need to transmit a mobile phone number to a remote service in order for an iOS or Android application to get access to locally stored contacts. You do not need to receive a "verification SMS" to allow the application to access your contacts.

Re: Telegram Cooperates with FSB (Rus)

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This is just a random speculation. There is no hard or even indirect evidence that Durov cooperates with FSB in any way. Even Whatsapp which belongs to Facebook is still available in Russia despite their explicit pro-Ukrainian stance.

Killing WhatsApp will be disastrous for the Russian economy. The effect will probably be on par if not greater than all other sanctions combined.

Every single daily thing is done via WhatsApp. The state realizes that which is why they carved an explicit (if a completely made-up) exception for it when they went after Instagram, Facebook and Meta. You don't want to inconvenience your brainwashed masses that much or they could be shaken out of their nirvana and start looking closely at what's going on.

Re: Telegram Cooperates with FSB (Rus)

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Telegram is the only platform where I have been able to get uncensored footage of the Ukraine conflict from a civilian perspective. Of course there is a lot of propaganda, but I get to see the destruction and war crimes from both sides with my own eyes. Recommended channels(NSFL) : https://t.me/kyivoperativ https://t.me/intelslava https://t.me/WORLD18WAR https://t.me/Yediotnews https://t.me/asbmil https://t.me/AtlasN…

The Vast Majority Blatantly Russian Propaganda FYI.

Re: Telegram Cooperates with FSB (Rus)

#45

This is just a random speculation. There is no hard or even indirect evidence that Durov cooperates with FSB in any way. Even Whatsapp which belongs to Facebook is still available in Russia despite their explicit pro-Ukrainian stance.

Durov doesn’t ban Russian government channels calling to literally nuke US and EU, posting fake news, etc. FSB easily tracks anti-regime/opposition channel authors by copying SIM-cards and getting access. Durov also doesn’t call war in Ukraine as war. He exchanged Russian userbase.

Re: Telegram Cooperates with FSB (Rus)

#46

Telegram is the only platform where I have been able to get uncensored footage of the Ukraine conflict from a civilian perspective. Of course there is a lot of propaganda, but I get to see the destruction and war crimes from both sides with my own eyes. Recommended channels(NSFL) : https://t.me/kyivoperativ https://t.me/intelslava https://t.me/WORLD18WAR https://t.me/Yediotnews https://t.me/asbmil https://t.me/AtlasN…

Note that over half of those channels are blatantly pro-Putin

I used to follow ASBMil on Twitter before Twitter banned it :/ I can't vouch for others but ASBMil was doing accurate reporting. Just searching for ASBMil on twitter will show many saying that Twitter is censoring accounts that do not repeat the accepted Western narrative.

Re: Telegram Cooperates with FSB (Rus)

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Telegram is the only platform where I have been able to get uncensored footage of the Ukraine conflict from a civilian perspective. Of course there is a lot of propaganda, but I get to see the destruction and war crimes from both sides with my own eyes. Recommended channels(NSFL) : https://t.me/kyivoperativ https://t.me/intelslava https://t.me/WORLD18WAR https://t.me/Yediotnews https://t.me/asbmil https://t.me/AtlasN…

/r/combatfootage (until reddit bans it)

Or /r/UkrainianConflict, since 2014

Re: Telegram Cooperates with FSB (Rus)

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Source please?

I think OP may be sloppily confusing Signal and Matrix here. The link for the case for a link between Matrix and Israel is there : https://www.hackea.org/notas/matrix.html

"Matrix is not a community-based software, it was born [00] in Amdocs [01], a multinational corporation founded in Israel.

On the Internet we find many pieces of information connecting Amdocs with Israel’s Intelligence [02][03][04]. We do not know if it is because they wanted to wash their image, but allegedly Amdocs does not own the project anymore. A new organization, New Vector, was created for Matrix. Nevertheless the same people work there [05] and the project keeps being generously funded [06]."

Re: Telegram Cooperates with FSB (Rus)

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It’s a bit disingenuous to say that Signal has nothing to share. Signal has access logs as well as metadata about the phone number, the name given on the app, group memberships, etc. With Signal, it’s also trivial to find out if someone is using it by adding their number to one’s address book. Then they can ask Signal for access and other information. That’s not easily possible with Telegram (there are settings to pr…

https://signal.org/bigbrother/

Last paragraph in https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/10/new-s...

Also, my point about finding who uses Signal and the access logs (though it’s not a historic log, for which I stand corrected) stand — Signal does store the last access information.

Re: Telegram Cooperates with FSB (Rus)

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This is just a random speculation. There is no hard or even indirect evidence that Durov cooperates with FSB in any way. Even Whatsapp which belongs to Facebook is still available in Russia despite their explicit pro-Ukrainian stance.

Facebook's been extensively cooperative with Russia, so I hardly see a 'even Whatsapp (which belongs to Facebook)' argument there. It's probably more of a 'Russia cannot continue to pay us, so best wishes guys, you can have advocacy again when you're able to pay for it'. It's just business.

The smaller services that go UP against the tech giants and have Russian backing, those will be cooperating with Russia. I don't know if Telegram counts as that or not, as I haven't looked into it. But they exist, and a lot of 'em are left scrambling now as the money dries up.

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