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Telegram Cooperates with FSB (Rus)

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Re: Telegram Cooperates with FSB (Rus)

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Telegram channel "Код Дурова" asked a source close to Telegram what they thought of Matveichev's words - "Clowns" (https://t.me/d_code/13701)

Keep in mind that they are paid for correct answers. Reminding how Elvira Nabiulina (head of the Central Bank of Russia) talks about the good economic situation and stability in Russia.

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Text is in Russian, but nowadays it shouldn't be a problem. Just in case, Google Translate: Oleg Matveychev, deputy chairman of the committee on information policy, information technology and communications, told Podyom that as long as the messenger is politically neutral, they will not touch it, and there is no need to become biased by Telegram. “Durov found a compromise with the FSB. Not an agreement, not that he u…

Are the controlling only traffic from inside Russia or worldwide?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But not Signal, for example. Well, they do: but they have nothing to share. Telegram on the contrary have a ton to share.

It’s a bit disingenuous to say that Signal has nothing to share. Signal has access logs as well as metadata about the phone number, the name given on the app, group memberships, etc. With Signal, it’s also trivial to find out if someone is using it by adding their number to one’s address book. Then they can ask Signal for access and other information. That’s not easily possible with Telegram (there are settings to pr…

https://signal.org/bigbrother/

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All modern social networks and messengers cooperate with law enforcement.

See matrix.org and host your own server as a counterexample. Own your communication.

In this case, self hosting matrix within Russia would present the same legal vulnerabilities. Maybe a bit obscurity, but at same time it's signalling to FSB that it maybe be worth investigating.

Re: Telegram Cooperates with FSB (Rus)

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This is just a random speculation. There is no hard or even indirect evidence that Durov cooperates with FSB in any way. Even Whatsapp which belongs to Facebook is still available in Russia despite their explicit pro-Ukrainian stance.

Re: Telegram Cooperates with FSB (Rus)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

and have equipment installed to listen to the traffic?

Isn't that the law in Russia? Every ISP is required to have the SORM (Russian ECHELON) lawful interception boxes in their network. So anything with servers in Russia will get their traffic intercepted to begin with and then FSB will pressure them for more indepth database access. This has always meant that Telegram was not suitable for anything requiring secrecy or privacy.

Telegram is not ISP and being used widely by non-russian residents.

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All modern social networks and messengers cooperate with law enforcement.

except ofc true p2p (the real kind of server less ) solutions, like 1. https://manyver.se 2. https://scuttlebutt.nz 3. https://cabal.chat

Manyverse is really cool. Just downloaded the app. Any suggestions on SSBs to join?

Re: Telegram Cooperates with FSB (Rus)

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This is just a random speculation. There is no hard or even indirect evidence that Durov cooperates with FSB in any way. Even Whatsapp which belongs to Facebook is still available in Russia despite their explicit pro-Ukrainian stance.

How did he go away without sharing encryption keys? Other networks platforms were forced to do this or close. Telegram left untouched...

Re: Telegram Cooperates with FSB (Rus)

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All modern social networks and messengers cooperate with law enforcement.

But not Signal, for example. Well, they do: but they have nothing to share. Telegram on the contrary have a ton to share.

They have a clear picture of users' social networks because of their dubious requirement that people provide them with working mobile numbers. Who speaks to whom, how frequently, during what times and what days of the week etc. Incredibly valuable and revealing data.
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