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Re: Telegram Cooperates with FSB (Rus)

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Post by celticninja »

coretx wrote: post #10
wut42 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But not Signal, for example. Well, they do: but they have nothing to share. Telegram on the contrary have a ton to share.

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Citation? But regardless without central servers hosting content what could they access?

Re: Telegram Cooperates with FSB (Rus)

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Post by wut42 »

coretx wrote: post #10
wut42 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But not Signal, for example. Well, they do: but they have nothing to share. Telegram on the contrary have a ton to share.

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Maybe, but what does it changes about it having no data to share ?

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Post by DarkByte »

coretx wrote: post #10
wut42 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But not Signal, for example. Well, they do: but they have nothing to share. Telegram on the contrary have a ton to share.

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Can you please elaborate on this statement? How did you determine this?

Re: Telegram Cooperates with FSB (Rus)

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Post by RF_Savage »

EugeneOZ wrote: post #6
achikin wrote: post #5

All modern social networks and messengers cooperate with law enforcement.

and have equipment installed to listen to the traffic?

Isn't that the law in Russia? Every ISP is required to have the SORM (Russian ECHELON) lawful interception boxes in their network. So anything with servers in Russia will get their traffic intercepted to begin with and then FSB will pressure them for more indepth database access.

This has always meant that Telegram was not suitable for anything requiring secrecy or privacy.

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Post by deadalus »

Telegram is the only platform where I have been able to get uncensored footage of the Ukraine conflict from a civilian perspective. Of course there is a lot of propaganda, but I get to see the destruction and war crimes from both sides with my own eyes.

Recommended channels(NSFL) :

https://t.me/kyivoperativ

https://t.me/intelslava

https://t.me/WORLD18WAR

https://t.me/Yediotnews

https://t.me/asbmil

https://t.me/AtlasNewsTelegram

https://t.me/s/OSINTUkraine

Re: Telegram Cooperates with FSB (Rus)

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Post by AnonHP »

wut42 wrote: post #7
achikin wrote: post #5

All modern social networks and messengers cooperate with law enforcement.

But not Signal, for example. Well, they do: but they have nothing to share. Telegram on the contrary have a ton to share.

It’s a bit disingenuous to say that Signal has nothing to share. Signal has access logs as well as metadata about the phone number, the name given on the app, group memberships, etc.

With Signal, it’s also trivial to find out if someone is using it by adding their number to one’s address book. Then they can ask Signal for access and other information. That’s not easily possible with Telegram (there are settings to prevent this).

That said, Telegram does store all non-secret chats in an accessible form (for it) on its servers.

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Post by amelius »

feanaro wrote: post #9
achikin wrote: post #5

All modern social networks and messengers cooperate with law enforcement.

See matrix.org and host your own server as a counterexample. Own your communication.

If everyone did that, then encryption would be banned, you can count on that.
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