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Post by reacharavindh »

confident_inept wrote: post #2

Praise be the folks that curate these lists. Even without a pi-hole you can plug these into any firewall for your brand(s). More annoying is the 15 second "home menu" that pops up on my OLED every time it is turned on. I almost always forget to manually dismiss it before I set the remote down and there's no option I can find to disable it. I would pay a premium for a TV with no internet connection.

I really hope I’m not missing a silly point. I always buy a TV that has the specs I need and can afford, and have a steadfast rule that they are forbidden from ever connecting to my WiFi. No firmware updates! - if it does not work when I bought it, it goes back. If it works, I’m fine if it does the same job for its life. What am I missing? Isn't every smart TV in the market a dumb TV if you don’t ever give it the keys to your network?

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Post by mrjin »

alkonaut wrote: post #3

I just manually unchecked the cookie permissions for a couple of hundred different ad companies on my Samsung TV. Using my remote. Of course there was a button to accept all of them, but not reject them. How one of the worlds largest companies sells stuff that so blatantly violates the GDPR while web developers at tiny companies sweat over whether we can save an IP for five minutes is beyond me.

I actually bought a TV box to avoid using those so called smart functions. Samsung TV's design, especially the remote designs are crap, which make switching video source a pain in the neck.

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Post by mrjin »

noisem4ker wrote: post #169
rdtwo wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fines are the same for both. It’s like Bill gates doesn’t really care if he runs every red light camera on the way home but his maid does.

The fines aren't the same. They scale with damage entity and company turnover. See art. 83 of GDPR: https://gdpr-info.eu/art-83-gdpr/

Still not scaled enough. Those fines might be staggering to a small company, but for those giants, might be less than 0.5% of net profit. So you can see that Apple/Google/FB etc.. were fined for billions but they simply paid the fine and continue to do what they were doing. The reason behind is actually pretty simple: fixing those problems would probably costing them more.

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Post by bloopernova »

That reminds me I need to look at the traffic being requested by our Sony TVs. We recently bought one for the bedroom, and its Android/Google ecosystem seems to work pretty well. Certainly better than the crap I've heard about from LG and Samsung.

Our old LG TV stopped working last week, and we're getting a replacement Sony on Monday. I'm hoping the worst features are relatively easy to block with OpenWRT while leaving the rest of the built-in features working correctly.

(I am not affiliated with Sony, beyond working for their broadcast R&D in the UK over 20 years ago)

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Post by infinityio »

saxonww wrote: post #163
Groxx wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Computer monitors are overwhelmingly "dumb", as well as having far lower latency and far higher refresh rates. And also more expensive :) I wish I knew if that was because the crapware and ads on smart TVs are actually reducing the cost, or if it's just that smart TVs use crap hardware and software by comparison. Given how laggy they can be, that wouldn't surprise me.

I've wondered about this. Are the TV-sized 'gaming monitors' smart tvs? Looking at a couple of OLED ones - Aorus FO48U, Alienware AW5520QF - it doesn't look like it. No wireless, and they are expensive. It's not clear whether they have HDCP, but... surely they must? That's table stakes for a computer monitor.

To my knowledge, almost all modern monitors sold today are HDCP compliant

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Post by timdaub »

The ads on Youtube on my Samsung have recently become super aggressive.

- 2x 10-20sec at the beginning of every video (even e.g. 30sec clips)

- Then, usually 2mins in the Yt themselves do an ad

- After that, at around 3mins, another 2x 10-20sec ad block.

I've started to work actively against it now since my viewing experience is suffering. I have a pihole but it doesn't do much.

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Post by 0x0000000 »

RedShift1 wrote: post #29
danielheath wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Block port 443 and configure machines to use an http proxy with a cert installed?

The 90's called, they want their technology back >:-(

Zscaler is a multi-billion dollar company, and the comment you replied to basically describes their primary product. Cloudflare now has a Secure Web Gateway product. So does VMware, and Cisco, and just about any networking/security vendor who is trying to make a play in the "SASE" space.

Hate to say it, but invisible TLS-intercepting proxies are more widely used today than they were in the 90s.

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