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Re: Tell HN: China Is Entering Lockdown

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Post by fbrncci »

user_named wrote: post #14
fbrncci wrote: post #9

I probably chose the wrong time to take time off, and travel to SEA for three weeks. Halfway expecting to land there and spend the next few months in lockdown. Wonder how HR will take it.

If you can even get in. If you're in SEA I think you still can but you may want to hurry up.

Departing within 72 hours, loads of paperwork went into getting approved to get in. Everything seems to be opening up, but while most are calling for things to open up even further; authorities are pointing fingers again to the rising number of infections and the possibility of collapse of the health care systems. However, two weeks ago, all seemed absolutely fine.

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Post by fbrncci »

sfifs wrote: post #38
fbrncci wrote: post #9

I probably chose the wrong time to take time off, and travel to SEA for three weeks. Halfway expecting to land there and spend the next few months in lockdown. Wonder how HR will take it.

South East Asia is pretty much opening up and treating Covid as endemic. You shouldn't have problems.

They were very much in line with opening up the past month, but the past few days calls are getting louder to do something about the rising number of infections; along with the strain on the health care systems.

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user_named wrote: post #24
captainmuon wrote: post #20

But even now, given that China is such a huge country, I think that the fraction of people inconvenienced by lockdown measures and other disturbances is smaller than in most western countries. Here in Germany, they are lifting most restrictions soon, but for example a lot of teachers are sick - which affects the childrens' parents as they can't go to work, and then their colleagues, and so on. It will take a long tim…

In my opinion china's policies have been the best, maybe together with New Zealand. We've basically been living as normal, much more so than any other country, except for some local cases here and there when there was a month of tightening. That's why I think it's ironic that once the virus basically becomes non-threatening, China has to enter the same type of lockdown as other countries did two years before. And tha…

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Re: Tell HN: China Is Entering Lockdown

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Post by samwillis »

I find this fascinating in comparison with the situation here in the UK where about 70% of the population are triple vaccinated. Omicron is everywhere, literally. Anecdotally I would say 80-90% of households with school aged kids have had Omicron since the beginning of January and it’s still doing the rounds. We now have no restrictions and even during the peak in Jan/Feb it was very very minimal.

There will be no more restrictions here at all unless something drastic happens later in the year with a new variant.

Re: Tell HN: China Is Entering Lockdown

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Post by synergyS »

mrintellectual wrote: post #4

I can sympathize with your situation. I was in an office building in Shanghai last November when it got locked down for 48 hours - nobody in or out. Everybody ended up ordering takeout, and the entire building had to be tested for COVID a total of four times. The most insane part is that they don't even let you take pictures of the lockdown (I almost got my phone confiscated by the police for taking pictures). Also,…

Omg pretty strict procedure, you had to remain in the office for 48 hours?

Re: Tell HN: China Is Entering Lockdown

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Post by user_named »

benjaminwootton wrote: post #35
user_named wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's been perfectly fine except you haven't been able to leave the country and come back, except for some exceptions. I mean I know people who left for Christmas and came back but that's a lot of work and risking policy change while you're gone.

Do you still have to do social distancing, limiting numbers, limiting hospitality, QR checkins etc? Are people living in fear of Covid etc? I’m not saying it’s like that in China, but I would find it pretty hard to live like that plus no international travel to maintain zero Covid.

Social distancing has never been a big thing in China because we've had masks for two years. It's only when for example lining up for a covid test that there's been marked one meter distances you had to pay attention to. Only anti-mask backwards countries have promoted social distancing as a measure.

You sometimes check in with qr, but most of the time you just show your green health code which is a qr too, and sign your name, phone number etc on a sheet at the restaurant or such that you enter.

But for a long time now you haven't had to show your health code as there haven't been many cases.

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Post by jskrablin »

user_named wrote: post #27
benjaminwootton wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I imagine it’s been a pretty tough few years for the people there, and they still have to go through the full waves when their vaccines wane in effectiveness and the rest of the world gets back to normal. I didn’t envy the likes of New Zealand or China throughout because they really have no exit strategy other than eventually losing the war after multiple years of damage and hardship.

It's been perfectly fine except you haven't been able to leave the country and come back, except for some exceptions. I mean I know people who left for Christmas and came back but that's a lot of work and risking policy change while you're gone.

Which works ok if you're an island in the middle of nowhere, but it works a lot less ok if you're an EU county with people used to the idea of travelling anywhere without even having to show an ID. We've been through some pretty rough two years, but most of restrictions are now lifted or lifting. With the amount of people being either vaccinated or recovered from covid infection we should be over the whole pandemic dance of lockdowns and ever changing travel restrictions. On the other hand, NZ and China will have problems with outbreaks as soon as they lift travel restrictions. It's inevitable.

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Post by user_named »

bencollier49 wrote: post #33
benjaminwootton wrote: post #21

It’s amazing the costs China are willing to bear for this. Inevitably they will lose the war, and when they do it is a mild disease going into what I assume is a well vaccinated population. The UK has been hard at times in 2020 and 2021, but Covid feels like ancient history here now, as it should do.

Came to say the same thing. This feels like a weird blast from the past, which given that Covid first appeared in China, seems just odd really.

Indeed. See my other comment where I mention the irony of this.

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Post by benjaminwootton »

samwillis wrote: post #45

I find this fascinating in comparison with the situation here in the UK where about 70% of the population are triple vaccinated. Omicron is everywhere, literally. Anecdotally I would say 80-90% of households with school aged kids have had Omicron since the beginning of January and it’s still doing the rounds. We now have no restrictions and even during the peak in Jan/Feb it was very very minimal. There will be no mo…

Omnicron in particular is so low impact that the response is primarily political, especially when you have vaccines and some pre existing immunity.

Countries can choose to pretty much ignore it or go crazy over it as the politicians and Twitter demand.

We just got bored of it in the UK and moved onto Boris’s parties and now Ukraine.

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