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Smart-TV blocklist for Pi-Hole

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Re: Smart-TV blocklist for Pi-Hole

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post #36

Is the Pi-Hole even reasonably effective these days? > Nearly 70% of smart TVs and 46% of game consoles were found to contain hardcoded DNS settings - allowing them to simply ignore your local network’s DNS server entirely. https://labzilla.io/blog/force-dns-pihole

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Re: Smart-TV blocklist for Pi-Hole

#42

Is this for load-balancing? And they stopped 2 years ago? usage-us-fy2014.myhomescreen.tv ... usage-us-fy2018.myhomescreen.tv usage-us-fy2019.myhomescreen.tv usage-us-fy2020.myhomescreen.tv usage.myhomescreen.tv

It doesn't seem like they stopped:

    $ dig @8.8.8.8 +short usage-us-fy20{18,19,20,21,22}.myhomescreen.tv
    199.239.141.74
    213.198.25.172
    213.198.25.174
    213.198.25.177
    213.198.25.177
Probably a good opportunity for an update to the blocklist.

Edit: Opened a PR: https://github.com/Perflyst/PiHoleBlocklist/pull/126

Re: Smart-TV blocklist for Pi-Hole

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post #38
post #36

Is the Pi-Hole even reasonably effective these days? > Nearly 70% of smart TVs and 46% of game consoles were found to contain hardcoded DNS settings - allowing them to simply ignore your local network’s DNS server entirely. https://labzilla.io/blog/force-dns-pihole

You can create port forward firewall rules to redirect any outbound DNS port 53 traffic. This will not work for DNS over HTTPS, which is going to be increasingly common for IoT I'd imagine. edit: method for this on pfSense: https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/recipes/dns-redir...

Then you have to contend with DNS over HTTP, Thanks Firefox and Google....

DNS over HTTP has got to be the most ill thought out "privacy" feature that has done more to HARM privacy then it could ever help

Re: Smart-TV blocklist for Pi-Hole

#44
post #3

I just manually unchecked the cookie permissions for a couple of hundred different ad companies on my Samsung TV. Using my remote. Of course there was a button to accept all of them, but not reject them. How one of the worlds largest companies sells stuff that so blatantly violates the GDPR while web developers at tiny companies sweat over whether we can save an IP for five minutes is beyond me.

> How one of the worlds largest companies sells stuff that so blatantly violates the GDPR while web developers at tiny companies sweat over whether we can save an IP for five minutes is beyond me. Money solves a lot of problems, and people at tiny companies seem more likely to actually care.

The fines are the same for both. It’s like Bill gates doesn’t really care if he runs every red light camera on the way home but his maid does.

Re: Smart-TV blocklist for Pi-Hole

#45
post #32

For those who are still looking for dumb tvs these are the best ones available as far as I'm aware. Bought one last year and works as expected. https://www.sceptre.com/TV/4K-UHD-TV-category1category73.htm...

sceptre seems to be the last brand offering dumb displays

I am just waiting for the first "smart" computer monitor

Re: Smart-TV blocklist for Pi-Hole

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>They would need to have a fallback in case people block DoH. How do you block DoH?

Block port 443 and configure machines to use an http proxy with a cert installed?

that would be a nightmare to manage and impractical for most home networks

Re: Smart-TV blocklist for Pi-Hole

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are the number of people who do this numerous enough for them to make the effort? (edited to add) I feel like the real problem will be when they start adding wireless connectivity that you can't disable. I can keep my LG off the network today by refusing to configure networking for it. I can't do that if it doesn't use/require my network...

I was bored a few months ago and opened up my samsung tv to see if I could unhook the wifi antennas. Turns out there wasn't actually any in there but I was able to desolder the wifi chip. It was a small separate board mounted by 8 or so pins off the motherboard that I had to use low temp solder on. TV still works (minus the streaming services). If you try to open the network settings the screen just shows a loading i…

Would just not giving the TV access to wifi be enough or is it constantly bugging you with pop ups?

Re: Smart-TV blocklist for Pi-Hole

#48
post #36

Is the Pi-Hole even reasonably effective these days? > Nearly 70% of smart TVs and 46% of game consoles were found to contain hardcoded DNS settings - allowing them to simply ignore your local network’s DNS server entirely. https://labzilla.io/blog/force-dns-pihole

I block my TV’s MAC at the router. I use a roku for the streaming apps, which doesn’t seem to hardcode it’s DNS yet. But when it does you can just write some iptables rules. When they switch to dns over https, well I don’t know then haha.

Re: Smart-TV blocklist for Pi-Hole

#49
post #31

Praise be the folks that curate these lists. Even without a pi-hole you can plug these into any firewall for your brand(s). More annoying is the 15 second "home menu" that pops up on my OLED every time it is turned on. I almost always forget to manually dismiss it before I set the remote down and there's no option I can find to disable it. I would pay a premium for a TV with no internet connection.

You could pay a very small amount for a used house router and convince the TV that the house router is The Internet... and The Internet is down today. Best is if the TV doesn't try wifi when an ethernet cable is plugged in. Second best is if it has credentials to the wifi running on the used router. Note that the router should not actually be connected to any other network.

You don't need a separate router. If you don't give the TV the password to your WiFi it won't be able to connect.

Re: Smart-TV blocklist for Pi-Hole

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post #32

For those who are still looking for dumb tvs these are the best ones available as far as I'm aware. Bought one last year and works as expected. https://www.sceptre.com/TV/4K-UHD-TV-category1category73.htm...

Is there a dumb oled? I want a dumb oled tv and monitor, monitor oled market is surprisingly slim.
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