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I get that, but it matters very little in a typical sentence. I bet you could understand almost everything with all vowels replaced with schwas.

> I bet you could understand almost everything with all vowels replaced with schwas. No. Have you tried understanding someone who can only pronounce consonants but also whose dialect is foreign? It's unintelligible. Vowels absolutely serve a purpose. You're just used to hearing your own words spoken back to you in the same way you've always expected them.

Different accents use different vowels, but they remain comprehensible. It's specifically those accents that also change consonants that are taken as hard to understand, such as Scouse.

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One thing I've noticed is that is seems more recent movies lack character observations. Everything is done is in service of the plot. I think it was in Doctor No there was a conversation between Q, M and Bond. Bond's favourite weapon was the Beretta, and Q explained their downsides. Bond was ordered to use the Walther (IIRC) as a replacement. It was in a box. At the end of the scene, Bond picks up the box, surreptiti…

I think being a Hollywood writer has become a prestige job, largely devoid of merit and the talent isn’t what it used to be.

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In general I’ll watch anything the Drinker recommends (I’ll never stop being grateful that’s he got to me to give the Expanse a second try for example). With that said, there are lot of fantastic movies getting made, they’re just not big budget. You could watch nothing but stuff Pattinson (to name a single example) has been in over the last 10 years and have a, uh, good time. I personally think that these days the mo…

So, I should give the Expanse a second try? ....

My biggest issue these days is that there isn't actual development within the world created. Superman falls for Lois lane, not because of some sort of event or circumstance that we experience on screen, but because they're 'supposed to get together'. Or it's also bad when movies rely on a wider generalized context rather than actually developing something within the world.

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It's not a coincidence that all the main characters featured in this video are women. The main thing the filmmakers are trying to show is that these are girl-bosses who can do anything men can do (and more) and it's so important to show that with utter, relentless completeness, that they've created characters that are magical, who don't need to overcome anything, characters who matter mostly as individuals, who have…

What's the point of the third paragraph? To protect yourself from criticism?

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I'm not a native speaker, but, I think it's rather the opposite. It's very inauthentic. English is a rather unusual language that the meaning is mostly carried only by consonants, while vowels are almost meaningless. What actors seem to be doing is that they focus too much on their accent, and the vowels that define it, and mostly ignore the consonants. Which means you can only hear the accents, but not what is being…

> English is a rather unusual language that the meaning is mostly carried only by consonants, while vowels are almost meaningless. Sorry but this sounds like nonsense. Vowel distinctions absolutely matter in English. Think of how many words would be indistinguishable otherwise: bout, bought, bet, bat, bit, beet, boot, boat, bite, but, and bait are all distinguished from each other only by a vowel. (And, yes, these al…

It may sound like nonsense, but in comparison to many other languages, English is super flexible with how vowels are pronounced and toned (entoned?). If you've ever tried to learn a tonal language, or one with more specific vowels like Khmer (which has 33 consonants and 22 vowels) you'd realize how relaxed English can be.

Generally this is in English's favor, I pronounce button differently than my NZ friends, but they still understand me.

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Don't forget that Anakin Skywalker was special because he carried more midi-chlorians since birth. He is, after all, "The Chosen One". So he, too, is "born that way".

He was gifted at birth, true. However, this hero does fail. In fact, he fails so spectacularly, he becomes the villain.

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It's not a coincidence that all the main characters featured in this video are women. The main thing the filmmakers are trying to show is that these are girl-bosses who can do anything men can do (and more) and it's so important to show that with utter, relentless completeness, that they've created characters that are magical, who don't need to overcome anything, characters who matter mostly as individuals, who have…

I don't think gender has anything to do with it though. > it's so important to show that with utter, relentless completeness, that they've created characters that are magical, who don't need to overcome anything, characters who matter mostly as individuals, who have no duties or responsibilities to anyone else (most certainly not to any men). They're just total kick-ass take-no-prisoners empowered women. But what you…

I tend to think the iron man movie are all trash. However I don't think they follow this pattern as you say.

By the third movie he's literally having anxiety panic attacks. He's fearful that spidey, whom he brought to the big leagues, will get hurt and it'll be on his conscious. He's afraid and guilty of the collateral damage he's spawned into the world but intializing super hero culture.

Execution of those movies aside I thought his character development arc was pretty good.

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Another enormous gripe I have with modern movies, other than the (lack of) interesting moral lessons from OP, is the sound design. Loud explosions and music, with quiet, mumbled lines[1]. I'm forced to watch every movie with subtitles on, or to miss a good chunk of the dialogue. And I'd go beyond that, and blame the mumbled lines for our lack of interesting quotes. It's a lot harder to have unexpected turns of phrase…

It’s also because producers and directors make more use of the “dynamic range” that theatre sounds systems are capable of today. They paid a ton of money for that music and they’re going to make sure you hear it. In surround setups, most of the dialogue is mixed into the center channel, which is behind the screen in theaters. At home, if you don’t have a center channel, you’re either relying on the stereo mix and however they decided to balance the speech on that, or if you play the surround version on a nice processor, it’ll probably let you adjust the center channel.

An audio compressor would also help here on consumer devices, as that would allow a variable degree and ratio of dynamic range flattening. Basically, it can form a band of volume and ensure that quiet sounds and loud sounds both fit into that. Sadly, most consumer gear, although already equipped with all the DSP they need to implement this in software, thinks consumers are absolute morons and/or that this wouldn’t be a selling point, so we get watered-down poorly-implemented dialogue boost features or largely no option at all except for the consumer to “ride the fader” and constantly adjust the volume. https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/blog/soundbar-can-help-he... has some info on what’s out there today to address this, but yeah: it’s mostly fixable if consumers had control of the center channel mix + a configurable compressor + configurable EQ. There are ways to do this in consumer-friendly ways for folks who don’t know of care to learn about mastering audio for film, but the current situation is pretty bad and it really makes me wonder why so much mixing targets home theater setups vs built-in crap TV speakers. At very least, streaming companies could provide an alternate audio track [algorithmically] mixed specifically for built-in audio devices that has more clear dialogue.

I personally watch with subtitles because I don’t want to miss a word.

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Your question is meaningless, because the comment you answered to did not claimed nostalgia is fascist. He said, youtube algorithm is giving him vaguely fascist content.Bringing up "Birth of Nation" in literally second paragraph. And I did not said anything about glorifying past, I said the narrative lies about the past.

> Your question is meaningless, because the comment you answered to did not claimed nostalgia is fascist. In OP's post: > Is the Youtube algorithm directing people to make vaguely fascist feeling, "bring back the good old days" So yeah, no. The OP here used the word fascist in reference to the idea of "bring back the good old days".

In referencie to that and butcher of other things. So, no.

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That's ironic, because China hates strong female role models or protagonists in movies due to an endemically sexist culture

I think the Mulan update was a huge flop in China FWIW, so maybe Disney tried to thread the needle there and failed. New Star Wars movies also I think didn't do well there. https://variety.com/2020/film/asia/why-china-hates-disney-mu... > The most fundamental flaw, most felt, was that Disney’s new heroine starts out from childhood already equipped with superhero-like abilities, thanks to her extraordinary reserves of…

I think the new Mulan fail was due to some social media shitstorm about the lead actress or something; the spastic Chinese internet trolls had a feeding frenzy on something she said. At the same time, the movie got trashed in the West for being, well, shit.
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