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How CNN's Jeff Zucker and His Cronies Manipulated the News

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Re: How CNN's Jeff Zucker and His Cronies Manipulated the News

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Post by somenameforme »

This [1] an interesting and possibly relevant video. The video is going to be from somewhere around late 1992, long before Jeff Zucker had even joined CNN. It's a hot mic moment between Bill Clinton just before taking the presidency, and the iconic Larry King who was the biggest voice on CNN at the time :

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King: "It's crazy - [CNN owner] Ted Turner changed the world. He's a a big fan of yours.

Clinton: Is he?

King: He would, uh, serve you. You know what I mean?

Clinton: You're kidding?

King: Oh you'd be surprised. He's ready, what's he got left in life to gain? I'd call him after you're elected. Think about it. No dope.

Clinton: That's for sure.

King: Great guy to work for too.

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I have no clue what King was suggesting. Clinton seemed literally less than interested, or at least more cautious about saying things you don't want heard around mics. But I also don't think it's likely that Larry was just randomly mouthing off, so it does make this quite relevant. As does the fact that it wasn't especially long after this, relatively speaking at least, that news started its rapid transition to what it's turned into now a days.

[1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCUIlV-AKY4

Re: How CNN's Jeff Zucker and His Cronies Manipulated the News

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Post by megaman821 »

PaywallBuster wrote: post #38
GlassKingdom wrote: post #34

Some of the opinion pieces on CNN and MSNBC (Maddow etc) are basically left-wing version of Qanon. Whilst FoxNews gets rightly criticized when voicing such nonsense, the more liberal channels get a free pass. It’s wildly divisive and has severely damaged society over the last 5 years. But CNN and MSNBC got their ad-clicks, which I guess is the important thing.

in a way, Fox news is honest news. They were created (and everyone knows) to report from a "point of view" of the right. The "left wing" media pretend to be the only real/factual news/journalism, but can be just as biased and partisan, if not worse.

I agree. Fox News wears what it is on it's sleeve. CNN proports to be a fair, truthful source of news and very rarely outright lies to people, but there is too much missing context, misleading headlines, and late corrections. It takes too much mental energy to figure out what is worth paying attention to on CNN, it is easier to just ignore it.

Re: How CNN's Jeff Zucker and His Cronies Manipulated the News

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Post by HWR_14 »

lazyeye wrote: post #19

I remember watching recently a discussion on CNN about how Virginia voters were white supremacists because the CNN-preferred candidate had lost the state election. Note: These would be the same voters that voted for Obama in previous elections. The media is garbage, pure and simple.

I am not educated enough about Virginia candidates to weigh in on the truth of if he is a white supremacist. I can say that your logic is garbage. The governor got fewer votes in Virginia than either McCain or Romney did when they ran against Obama. It's possible that everyone who voted in the gubernatorial race voted for the candidate of the same party in every presidential election going back at least that far.

Re: How CNN's Jeff Zucker and His Cronies Manipulated the News

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Post by HWR_14 »

usednet wrote: post #44
PaywallBuster wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

in a way, Fox news is honest news. They were created (and everyone knows) to report from a "point of view" of the right. The "left wing" media pretend to be the only real/factual news/journalism, but can be just as biased and partisan, if not worse.

All news pretends to be real factual news. When has Fox ever delegitimized their own journalism?

> When has Fox ever delegitimized their own journalism?

In court. When their anchors get sued for slander.

Re: How CNN's Jeff Zucker and His Cronies Manipulated the News

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Post by HWR_14 »

pauldenton wrote: post #43
Cederfjard wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would love to see examples of anything on CNN or MSNBC that approaches QAnon-levels of derangement.

Well there's the Russians under every bed paranoia Look how they treated Trump from the start. 2020 was the most secure election in American history. 2016 was stolen by secret Russian collusion, that even a multi year long Mueller probe was unable to find any connections or collusion. You can also find the limits on information through polling. Over half of fox News viewers believe that the US government found WMDs i…

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Re: How CNN's Jeff Zucker and His Cronies Manipulated the News

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Post by mardifoufs »

jacquesm wrote: post #52
roenxi wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And at what point does this foreign influence they purchase fit in to that plan? There were people who appeared to literally be claiming that Russians controlled the US presidency just a few years ago. The only change, I suppose, is when this bullshit "Russian influence" was at its peak the world was more peaceful. & that is a bit of a non-sequiter, but a major world power invades a minor one once every decade or so.…

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He pushed for sanctions against Nordstream 2 and did pretty much everything to stop the pipeline from opening. Does that help strengthen russia?

Re: How CNN's Jeff Zucker and His Cronies Manipulated the News

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Post by specialist »

RobertMiller wrote: post #18

Cable news is a waste. Anything worth hearing about will be written up by a newspaper. And with newspapers now having websites, cable news doesn't even have an immediacy advantage. The only thing cable news can do better than newspapers is show you live footage of something happening, but that's good for little but gawking at. And if you really must get CNN's take on things, https://lite.cnn.com/en is much better tha…

> Anything worth hearing about will be written up by a newspaper.

True. Old complaint. TV news has always been a parasite on newspaper news rooms. With some rare exceptions.

I did student broadcasting (radio, public access cable, job shadowing) in the 80s. Learned about the history, the players, "journalism", etc. I loved the gear, working in the studio. (At least as much as I love programming computers.)

Corporate media has always been as bad as everyone imagines. Completely walked away from the industry after some interning. Once I got a peek behind the curtain, I simply loathe the entirety of it. I even refuse to own a TV, watch the news, etc.

Re: How CNN's Jeff Zucker and His Cronies Manipulated the News

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Post by factcheck1234 »

MrMan wrote: post #31
greatpostman wrote: post #5

The Russia investigation coverage changed my view on the limits and possibilities of propaganda. Have never been more cynical of humanity, or rather, people running the show commonly have the same abilities as the school teacher at the local public school

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Please stop spreading misinformation. The narrative that the Russians influenced the 2016 election is a baseless conspiracy theory that has long since been debunked as is the theory you're promoting about Tucker Carlson.

If you have reliable evidence you should post it but I thought posting misinformation isn't allowed here

Re: How CNN's Jeff Zucker and His Cronies Manipulated the News

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Post by jacquesm »

mardifoufs wrote: post #67
jacquesm wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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He pushed for sanctions against Nordstream 2 and did pretty much everything to stop the pipeline from opening. Does that help strengthen russia?

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