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How I Overcame Bipolar II (and Saved My Own Life)

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TL;DR; "I gave up sugar, coffee, and alcohol". It was a good read.

I suspect that you'll not get many upvotes for that comment but you can have one from me. I'm well aware that my abuse of sugar, coffee and alcohol are bad for my health but it really does seem that these things are tied into my lifestyle quite strongly...

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This is a dangerous article. A dangerous, slightly manic article. Someone close to me is affected with bipolar, which drags me into that universe. People who self-medicate - such as the author - are very common with this disease. There are a million people who claim they've "overcome" it, some through alcohol or street drugs, some through nutrition and lifestyle changes. The danger is that when you're manic, you are…

I can relate to this article, having being diagnosed with bipolar I, and having had an extended manic phase (with psychosis) in which I was actually trying to save myself: - eating well - todo lists - self discipline - sports - stopping drugs / coffee / alcohol I'm kind of "scared" of these things now, but also realize that they are, while not the complete solution, necessary ingredients to living a "normal" life. It…

I'm curious about the coffee part. What happens with coffee?

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I think that the prevalence of manic-depressive (bipolar) illness among software entrepreneurs is many times greater than that of the general population. Many of the symptoms characterizing manic or hypomanic behavior are possibly extremely helpful for software entrepreneurs and I would argue that founders exhibiting manic-depressive characteristics have a higher rate of success than those without such traits. Howeve…

Switch to using honey as a sweetener Not such a great idea. Honey is full of fructose -- this indeed gives it a lower glycemic index than sucrose, but causes other problems. Watch this (long but very interesting) video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM My takeaway from this talk is that it's best to avoid all sugars, but if you must eat something sweet, eat it with plenty of fiber to slow the absorption of…

I'm definitely not the expert here and the suggestion to use honey as a sweetener was given to me by an Orthomolecular Psychiatrist. The context was that if I want to use a sweetener in my tea or coffee, I should use something like honey over white sugar or cane sugar.

Honey may have other issues, which definitely reinforces my feeling that it's really best to consult an expert when attempting to regulate mental disorders by using a special diet or vitamins. However as a common sense solution it seems that using honey to sweeten tea or coffee is a reasonable alternative to white sugar, and it is a situation where fruit simply won't substitute. For a quick snack, fruit is a great idea and I would definitely prefer it over some kind of honey snack or a candy bar.

googling: "honey bipolar refined sugar" leads to a bunch of links comparing white sugar with honey, but again my experience with internet research for vitamins and mental disorders is that the information is extremely unreliable and all over the place. This is an area (similar to searching for information about cancer online) where I think that the most reliable information comes out of books written by qualified professionals and directly from qualified specialists.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can relate to this article, having being diagnosed with bipolar I, and having had an extended manic phase (with psychosis) in which I was actually trying to save myself: - eating well - todo lists - self discipline - sports - stopping drugs / coffee / alcohol I'm kind of "scared" of these things now, but also realize that they are, while not the complete solution, necessary ingredients to living a "normal" life. It…

I'm curious about the coffee part. What happens with coffee?

It's the caffeine and its side effects. It can cause sleep disorders, anxiety, and so on. Of course, not everyone encounters these problems with their coffee-drinking. See the Wikipedia entry for caffeine if you want more details though.

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The literary editor on page 2 had the author completely pegged: "Mr. Ellsberg’s writing is not strong enough to overcome the simple fact that he is not a very likable person. Sorry, but there it is." It's true of this article, too. I don't want to play armchair psychologist, but this individual has an enormous ego and shows shockingly little empathy. I think there is more wrong than he is letting on.

Funny, that part resonated with me as well.

Totally confirmed after I followed the link to his book on amazon and saw that it had been blatantly astroturfed with fake 5 star reviews.

Re: How I Overcame Bipolar II (and Saved My Own Life)

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so, drinking nescafe gold decaffeinated is a safe choice of coffee, right? because im drinking it for the taste only, without sugar but with milk...

coffee was definitely not helping with my ADD / ADHD... im on ritalin / concerta 54mg for 2 weeks now, stopping for the weekend and it works great so far with a slight sleeplessness and a little loss of apetite which i perceive as normal apetite actually, since im over weight. i have more inclination for riding the bike too.

IF u have

- focus problems

- sleeping issues at home or at work

- lots of great projects which u haven't finished for months or years

- fluctuating work / sex performance

- alcoholic or drug abusing parents / grand parents

i would highly recommend to learn a bit about ADHD via Dr. Edward Hallowell's "Delivered from Distraction" book ( http://www.drhallowell.com/books/delivered-from-distraction-... ), because you have a high chance to seriously suppress these problems with some medications OR simply life style changes.

in my case i have pretty high sensitivity to sugar and certain carbs. i feel so sleepy after eating rice or drinking a liter of even no-added-sugar fruit juices, as if my head wants to fall off. my mother is diabetic, btw.

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This is a dangerous article. A dangerous, slightly manic article. Someone close to me is affected with bipolar, which drags me into that universe. People who self-medicate - such as the author - are very common with this disease. There are a million people who claim they've "overcome" it, some through alcohol or street drugs, some through nutrition and lifestyle changes. The danger is that when you're manic, you are…

I disagree. Each of those things he compounded by adding one to the other. He's successful and that support structure he's built around himself along with his nutritional discipline allows him to essentially "overcome" the disorder. The guy is giving speeches on networking to the first group of Thiel Fellows and he blogs on Forbes. Nothing he's saying seems irrational or ridiculous. Being a so-called "beast" in your…

> Cures exist for mental illness; mostly by nutrition, therapy, hard work and strong social ties.

[Citations to peer-reviewed, double-blind, placebo-controlled studies needed]

Re: How I Overcame Bipolar II (and Saved My Own Life)

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I agree that this is a disturbing article. It obviously reads like something written by someone who is currently hypomanic. If overcoming bipolar disease was really so straightforward, there wouldn't be millions of people suffering from it and debilitated from it. If the solution was as straightforward as the author implies, everyone would have tried it, and it would be pretty obvious that it works.

The truth is, it doesn't. I wish the author the best, but he doesn't sound cured to me. He will very likely relapse.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious about the coffee part. What happens with coffee?

It's the caffeine and its side effects. It can cause sleep disorders, anxiety, and so on. Of course, not everyone encounters these problems with their coffee-drinking. See the Wikipedia entry for caffeine if you want more details though.

yes, mostly sleep disorder, the intense crash and burn of coffee compared to a more mellow effect of for example green tea, and the tummy problems.

especially the crash/burn + sleep problems though, which lead to anxiety, which leads to either depression, or in my case a kind of jittery angst-fueled hyperactivity.

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