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Re: New Ubuntu in 9 days, 18 hours, 51 minutes and 29 seconds

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Post by elehack »

viraptor wrote: post #28
elehack wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While it's taken flack for Gnome Shell, I switched to Fedora when Unity was coming down the pike and have been very happy (and actually like Gnome Shell). And the Gnome people seem to have gotten at least some of the message gurkendoktor mentions in another thread - they have screenshots of the core features of the product in action and videos showing how different UI flows work.

If the UI is all you had problems with, then why switch the whole distribution instead of installing the same gnome shell? Even softpedia provides a way to do it: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-GNOME-3-on-Ubu...

I was growing increasingly dissatisfied with other aspects of Ubuntu as well. Unity was just the last straw.

Re: New Ubuntu in 9 days, 18 hours, 51 minutes and 29 seconds

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Post by slaughterhaus »

rbanffy wrote: post #59
Dylan16807 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"ubuntu" tells me the location of the countdown and not much more. It doesn't tell me what is going to happen in this new release, why they're making a fuss, why I should care.

> It doesn't tell me what is going to happen in this new release Even without any other information about it, it's safe to assume new and current versions of everything. > why they're making a fuss Because they are launching a new version in 9 days. > why I should care. That's one question only you can possibly answer.

Hi, try to keep your replies meaningful to the conversation. k?

Re: New Ubuntu in 9 days, 18 hours, 51 minutes and 29 seconds

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Post by rbanffy »

slaughterhaus wrote: post #62
rbanffy wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It doesn't tell me what is going to happen in this new release Even without any other information about it, it's safe to assume new and current versions of everything. > why they're making a fuss Because they are launching a new version in 9 days. > why I should care. That's one question only you can possibly answer.

Hi, try to keep your replies meaningful to the conversation. k?

I am not sure how Dylan16807 did his/her search, but when I do, I get a nice grouped response with 7 items from the ubuntu.com site. Searching for "ubuntu" doesn't take me to a specific oneiric feature-list, but, I imagine, it's not that hard to get it. Apart from that, every 6 months Ubuntu launches a new release and hasn't failed even once to provide newer versions of more or less the same packages present in its last incarnation.

Re: New Ubuntu in 9 days, 18 hours, 51 minutes and 29 seconds

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Post by ericb »

fhars wrote: post #10

Oh my god is that embarrassing. Some meaningless marketing spew, some social network stealth tracking widgets, and not a single link to any meaningful information. After the recent interresting design choices, the unity disaster and now this it is probably time to look for a distribution that doesn't think of it's users as mindless drones easily distracted by empty shiny things. Any recommendations?

Linux Mint fits the niche Ubuntu used to hold for me.

http://www.linuxmint.com/

Re: New Ubuntu in 9 days, 18 hours, 51 minutes and 29 seconds

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Post by Dylan16807 »

rbanffy wrote: post #63
slaughterhaus wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi, try to keep your replies meaningful to the conversation. k?

I am not sure how Dylan16807 did his/her search, but when I do, I get a nice grouped response with 7 items from the ubuntu.com site. Searching for "ubuntu" doesn't take me to a specific oneiric feature-list, but, I imagine, it's not that hard to get it. Apart from that, every 6 months Ubuntu launches a new release and hasn't failed even once to provide newer versions of more or less the same packages present in its l…

New versions? Good, I like those. But I expect those. An on-schedule biannual release is not worth an actual fuss, even if it's only a week away.

This site is a big dollop of hype. Should I expect anything to back it up?

Re: New Ubuntu in 9 days, 18 hours, 51 minutes and 29 seconds

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Post by piccadilly »

viraptor wrote: post #28
elehack wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While it's taken flack for Gnome Shell, I switched to Fedora when Unity was coming down the pike and have been very happy (and actually like Gnome Shell). And the Gnome people seem to have gotten at least some of the message gurkendoktor mentions in another thread - they have screenshots of the core features of the product in action and videos showing how different UI flows work.

If the UI is all you had problems with, then why switch the whole distribution instead of installing the same gnome shell? Even softpedia provides a way to do it: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-GNOME-3-on-Ubu...

You wouldn't necessarily know this until you had done the described change, but Ubuntu's packaging of Gnome Shell is in various small but annoying ways not as polished and together as Fedora's.

That might partly be because Ubuntu has thrown its effort into its default Unity, while Fedora has put effort into its default Gnome Shell.

Re: New Ubuntu in 9 days, 18 hours, 51 minutes and 29 seconds

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Post by piccadilly »

viraptor wrote: post #53
snowwindwaves wrote: post #36

I'm still on 8.04. Ubuntu moves too fast for me, and seems to always break something that used to work. The next time I visit any of the machines for which I am responsible for care & feeding I am installing red hat or centos. 7 year support cycle!

Why not debian? You get both the stable release supported for years to come and lots of packages. In my experience most of the needed apps are in the repository and don't need hunting down on third-party sites like with centos/rhel. On top of that you don't get silly things like ancient kernel with hundreds of patches which makes it incompatible with almost anything you need to compile as a module (depends on your ha…

Seconded: if you're still on 8.04 and don't like how fast Ubuntu moves, then it sounds like you were born for Debian Stable, which is in many respects a very similar system

Re: New Ubuntu in 9 days, 18 hours, 51 minutes and 29 seconds

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Post by rbanffy »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #65
rbanffy wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not sure how Dylan16807 did his/her search, but when I do, I get a nice grouped response with 7 items from the ubuntu.com site. Searching for "ubuntu" doesn't take me to a specific oneiric feature-list, but, I imagine, it's not that hard to get it. Apart from that, every 6 months Ubuntu launches a new release and hasn't failed even once to provide newer versions of more or less the same packages present in its l…

New versions? Good, I like those. But I expect those. An on-schedule biannual release is not worth an actual fuss, even if it's only a week away. This site is a big dollop of hype. Should I expect anything to back it up?

http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&#3...

hope it helps

Re: New Ubuntu in 9 days, 18 hours, 51 minutes and 29 seconds

#69

Post by rbanffy »

kiwidrew wrote: post #31

I've just updated to the 11.10 beta2, and my experience so far has not been promising. My main gripe (as expected) is that the Unity desktop is the only option now; while it is possible to install GNOME 3 and use that, it lacks the polish of 11.04's GNOME desktop and is clearly in an unfinished state. As a developer, Unity's handling of multiple terminal windows is extraordinarily ham-fisted. Say you have a web brows…

> There's only 9 days left to go, and I don't see how they're going to deliver a reliable and robust release on time.

I have used Ubuntu betas before and I can assure you the last couple weeks or so are the worst, but with everything straightening up nicely in the final days.

My bet is it will be ready on time, this cycle being no different than previous ones. Some kinks may remain, as the user base is not that big to stress out everything that can go wrong, but I am filing bugs as they hit me (they are more or less automatically filed into Launchpad) and the current update version I am running is much better than the out-of-the-box beta 2.

As always, if you can't waste time, I would advise you to only install a month after the launch.

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