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uBlock Origin becomes top addon on Firefox

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Re: uBlock Origin becomes top addon on Firefox

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> This included word-of-mouth advertisements This is not really advertising. It's more like a conversation. It's real people talking about their experiences. Advertising is when some phony who's on the corporation's payroll comes to you unsolicited and starts overstating the positives and downplaying the negatives.

There is two things going on here that are getting lumped under the same umbrella. 1) Modern marketing that uses a deep understanding of psychology to treat people as a series of levers to be pressed in order to get a certain reaction. 2) Service discovery. This can be really valuable. Just imagine you made something you were truly proud of and thought would bring value to others lives, or of something you already th…

> Service discovery

I don't consider this advertising either. If there is a list of services somewhere and people consult it voluntarily, then it's not really advertising, it's information. People are informing themselves about what's available.

For example, I don't consider an online store to be advertising. The whole reason I went there is to see products, so it's totally fine when products are shown. It becomes unethical when they start shoving products in my face everywhere I go.

Re: uBlock Origin becomes top addon on Firefox

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While I agree on supporting the things you use. I don't think "the lists are everything". Quite the opposite, Its the blocking features. For me I like uBlocks disabling Javascript with an easy click and the other granularity (popups, multimedia) it allows on a site by site basis.

As a general life rule, not just for uBlock: help in the way you are asked to help.

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Re: uBlock Origin becomes top addon on Firefox

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I prefer DNS filtering over extensions as they generally want all permissions to essentially impersonate you at the browser level. Am I wrong?

DNS filtering sucks and can't filter ads served from the same domain as content, if all you can block is a FQDN, there's an absolute shit ton of trackers and ads that are getting past you. This is why piholes are awful. I don't know why they get such high praise - it's just a crappy DNS filter that blocks like what 40% of the ads you see?

pi hole is great and is just another layer.

Re: uBlock Origin becomes top addon on Firefox

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> impersonate you at the browser level This is a new framing for me...I don't think of ublock as impersonating me, but rather representing me, like an agent in a transaction. While it's true that agents that represent you need to be trusted, there is also a huge upside: ublock origin can do things that DNS blocking cannot. Given ublock's (gorhill's) track record, I think this is an excellent deal.

Right; there's a reason we literally call the browser the "user agent", and uBlock is just a part of that. It's not impersonating me, it's a vital part of the browser being a useful tool for me.

The concept of a user agent is hilariously and sadly quaint on the modern web.

Can you imagine what a user agent to interact with Facebook would look like? Or Instagram? Or TikTok?

It shows how far we slid backwards for large, popular areas of user functionality, post-90s.

Re: uBlock Origin becomes top addon on Firefox

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Pihole is contributes to a defense in depth strategy. Lots of android games are unplayable when I'm connected to the internet unless I'm on a network protected by pihole. Yes, I can run a firewall on my phone, but maintaining firewalls on every device that my family uses?

Solution: don’t play games or use any app where the business model isn’t “I give you money and you give me goods and services”. I have one ad supported app on my phone - the Overcast podcast player. That’s only because the author created his own non scummy ad network and I find ads on the podcast player that advertise other podcasts useful. If I didn’t, I would pay him too to get rid of ads.

That's great. I'm glad you have balanced out your morality and online browsing. We will all sleep easier tonight.

Re: uBlock Origin becomes top addon on Firefox

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uBlock Origin, with CNAME uncloaking is the most powerful ad/tracker blocking tool. Browsing Internet without it is often time a scary experience. It does block our [Wide Angle Analytics]( https://wideangle.co/documentation/track-with-custom-domain ) tracker about which we are open about. And ... we are not against. Every user should have a right to self determination and control when browsing the Internet. Our track…

Just FYI, the problem with analytics providers like yourself is that even if you don't explicitly intend to spy, you're still collecting a lot of information in a single spot that could allow someone to track the user across websites if it were to leak or be compelled (by law or force - enemy invasion like in Ukraine) to share it.

Re: uBlock Origin becomes top addon on Firefox

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I instantly install this extension whenever I work on a new machine as I could not imagine browsing the web without it. For that reason I just went looking for a donate button to help fund the project and it turns out they don't even accept donations https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Why-don't-you-accept-...

the day is coming - between changing how 3rd party cookies work, how ads are served from the same domain as content itself, to the intended feature-creep of Trusted Computer.. that ublock origin, pihole (which is already a piss poor solution), and other tools are going to be rendered useless. It's a great tool. But it's days are numbered. A couple more years and mark my words, things like ublock, will be defeated.

Good luck with that. ISPs, DMCA people, etc have been saying that for 30 years.

Re: uBlock Origin becomes top addon on Firefox

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What kills me is even paid subscription sites like WSJ, Bloomberg, Seeking Alpha, show you ads even when you're a paying member. Why is it a war on our attention?

This annoys me too, because I dislike ads, but to be fair, newspapers and magazines have always had ads as their primary revenue source, and also almost always charged for the print copy as well. About 30 years ago, when physical newspapers were still more popular than virtual newspapers, you'd pay about 50 cents for the daily edition and $1.50 for the Sunday edition. That adds up to more than the current monthly fee…

That adds up to the current monthly fees only if it assumes you buy every single edition. In print, you have the choice not to - with the subscription you pay full price regardless of whether you actually read every day's edition.

Re: uBlock Origin becomes top addon on Firefox

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uBlock Origin, with CNAME uncloaking is the most powerful ad/tracker blocking tool. Browsing Internet without it is often time a scary experience. It does block our [Wide Angle Analytics]( https://wideangle.co/documentation/track-with-custom-domain ) tracker about which we are open about. And ... we are not against. Every user should have a right to self determination and control when browsing the Internet. Our track…

Is AdBlockPro needed with uBlock or does uBlock do everything ABP does and more?

Ditch adblock pro and use ublock Origin (origin!), you will only be getting more wins and not losing anything. I suggest reading up on the various lists to enable outside of the default ones that are enabled. Don't turn them all on though, that is a LOT of "stuff" to block, even on modern machines and will noticeably slow down your page load.
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