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Re: Twitter makes it harder to choose the old reverse-chronological feed

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Post by thrower123 »

SECProto wrote: post #189
blacklight wrote: post #93

Just use Twitter's lists. I've been using them for a long time. I added to one of my lists only the accounts that I really want to see on my feed (no old school friends, acquaintances, nor random people that some of the accounts I follow just started following: only sources with added value). The result? Open your list, and you'll see all the tweets sorted chronologically, only from the accounts you really care to fo…

Caveat: I immediately block anyone who adds me to a list (it's only happened 3 or 4 times and it seems spammy). And I've seen a number of other accounts with "don't add me to lists" or equivalent in their bio.

There's a difference between private and public lists. As far as I'm aware, adding someone to a private list does not notify them that they've been added, it just give you a filter and the chronological view of tweets from people you add to the list.

Re: Twitter makes it harder to choose the old reverse-chronological feed

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Post by [deleted] »

SECProto wrote: post #189
blacklight wrote: post #93

Just use Twitter's lists. I've been using them for a long time. I added to one of my lists only the accounts that I really want to see on my feed (no old school friends, acquaintances, nor random people that some of the accounts I follow just started following: only sources with added value). The result? Open your list, and you'll see all the tweets sorted chronologically, only from the accounts you really care to fo…

Caveat: I immediately block anyone who adds me to a list (it's only happened 3 or 4 times and it seems spammy). And I've seen a number of other accounts with "don't add me to lists" or equivalent in their bio.

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Re: Twitter makes it harder to choose the old reverse-chronological feed

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Post by eatsyourtacos »

slimsag wrote: post #10
nkozyra wrote: post #8

They've been battling the widespread preference for chronological timeline for ... well, forever. As the common belief goes, the "algorithmic" one is more profitable. I buy this, intuitively, because it seems natural that it'd be harder to sneak in something jarring if you were viewing a more traditional timeline. But I can't fathom why seemingly no effort has gone into monetizing a chronological timeline. Why is it'…

I don't think there's any issue monetizing a chronological timeline. The issue for them I imagine is retention: with chronological, it's likely that when you visit Twitter the first few messages you see are not interesting and you leave. But if they put a tweet that's popular among your social group in front of you? Odds are that's interesting to you and you stick around a bit longer. I dislike that, to be clear, but…

Which is what pissed me off the most about TikTok for the brief period I used it.

They would just show me random shit basically irregardless of date.. and that's not at all what I wanted. I found it to be an new source- of sorts. I'm not saying a good one, but at least it was somewhat interesting to may see peoples perspective on some topic. But what I found is it would just show me stuff that could be months old, days old etc instead of prioritizing like.. top day things.

I haven't used it during the russia/ukraine time.. but I can't imagine how wildly inaccurate of a picture you would get if you are viewing stuff completely out of date order. Yeah they put the date on the video.. but that doesn't really help, everything is still all over the place.

For all Reddit's faults- I can at least go there, take a look at some of the top headlines in some subreddits.. and know if I see something it's recent unless I am looking otherwise.

Re: Twitter makes it harder to choose the old reverse-chronological feed

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Post by flas9sd »

Ambolia wrote: post #120

Is there any easy way to follow a couple of Twitter accounts in chronological order without having a Twitter account? Nitter is nice to follow individual accounts, but you have to go to each account 1 by 1 rather than create a personal timeline with chronological posts from different accounts.

I use fraidycat (browser addon) for this. You can import/export your follows as html/json/opml too if you want to move. While not necessary, a nitter instance also replaces twitter.com, primarily for the rendering speed. It's funny that alternative frontends became a thing

Re: Twitter makes it harder to choose the old reverse-chronological feed

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Post by SECProto »

thrower123 wrote: post #191
SECProto wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Caveat: I immediately block anyone who adds me to a list (it's only happened 3 or 4 times and it seems spammy). And I've seen a number of other accounts with "don't add me to lists" or equivalent in their bio.

There's a difference between private and public lists. As far as I'm aware, adding someone to a private list does not notify them that they've been added, it just give you a filter and the chronological view of tweets from people you add to the list.

Ah, that could very well be. As I don't use lists (I just sort my feed by chronological), my only connection with lists has been when I've received notifications of being added to them

Re: Twitter makes it harder to choose the old reverse-chronological feed

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Post by Ambolia »

flas9sd wrote: post #194
Ambolia wrote: post #120

Is there any easy way to follow a couple of Twitter accounts in chronological order without having a Twitter account? Nitter is nice to follow individual accounts, but you have to go to each account 1 by 1 rather than create a personal timeline with chronological posts from different accounts.

I use fraidycat (browser addon) for this. You can import/export your follows as html/json/opml too if you want to move. While not necessary, a nitter instance also replaces twitter.com, primarily for the rendering speed. It's funny that alternative frontends became a thing

Cool, it's available as an AUR package in Arch Linux too: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fraidycat-git

Re: Twitter makes it harder to choose the old reverse-chronological feed

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Post by fsflover »

jwmoz wrote: post #51

I hate Twitter for all the change they've made-more spam and useless engagement features. I noticed this in testing some time ago, constantly making it hard just to see what I want, not the Algo suggested tweets, other peoples likes, spam etc. Every tech company is going down the same route, spam and advertising until they force power users away in disgust. Just this week I've had the same annoying random Chinese lan…

Consider using Mastodon instead. It's the new Twitter which will never get bloated (because it's p2p and FLOSS).

Re: Twitter makes it harder to choose the old reverse-chronological feed

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Post by sneak »

blacklight wrote: post #93

Just use Twitter's lists. I've been using them for a long time. I added to one of my lists only the accounts that I really want to see on my feed (no old school friends, acquaintances, nor random people that some of the accounts I follow just started following: only sources with added value). The result? Open your list, and you'll see all the tweets sorted chronologically, only from the accounts you really care to fo…

Twitter censors the search bar, even hiding tweets that don't violate the TOS from logged in searchers searching for certain bad-PR hashtags, making it impossible to identify the scope or reach or growth rates of certain memes (eg qanon, antivax, war propaganda, etc).

It is supremely disrespectful to tell other adults what they are and are not allowed to read.

"Just" stop donating content and attention to abusive and disrespectful censorship platforms.

You don't counter abuse with workarounds, you leave and stop being abused.

Re: Twitter makes it harder to choose the old reverse-chronological feed

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Post by joegahona »

blacklight wrote: post #93

Just use Twitter's lists. I've been using them for a long time. I added to one of my lists only the accounts that I really want to see on my feed (no old school friends, acquaintances, nor random people that some of the accounts I follow just started following: only sources with added value). The result? Open your list, and you'll see all the tweets sorted chronologically, only from the accounts you really care to fo…

My fear is dutifully curating lists for this purpose -- which would take ages -- only for them to monkey with this feature. I see a lot of people on Twitter who say something like "if you put me in a list, I will block you," which makes me think there's some sort of list-spamming capability currently. (I can't figure out any other reason people wouldn't want to be added to lists...?)

I use the reverse-chron feed almost exclusively. Product Management Twitter has devolved into people with 1-2 years of product experience vomiting out threads of "What I've learned" that have zero insight, and because I follow a lot of legit product people, Twitter thinks I want this other stuff. I hate it.

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