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Don't ask to ask, just ask (2019)
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Re: Don't ask to ask, just ask (2019)
#133People aren't APIs.
Please follow up with MAIL, RCPT and DATA after your HELOs to me.
Re: Don't ask to ask, just ask (2019)
#134Hello
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Re: Don't ask to ask, just ask (2019)
#135People aren't APIs.
This makes me want to respond to all the hi-only messages with "ACK" from now on.
Re: Don't ask to ask, just ask (2019)
#136It is just part of a human-centric session initiation protocol.
A major reason people do it is to query presence-at-keyboard before continuing. Maybe the matter is time sensitive, maybe they don't want to disclose something immediately without setting context, finding something out first, whatever.
Re: Don't ask to ask, just ask (2019)
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
> A "no" response for the first question could save everyone from wasting their time with the second. That “no” is never going to happen though. Every individual might know that they aren’t a Java expert, but they don’t know that every other individual is also not an expert. So there is nobody in a position to answer “no”.
> That “no” is never going to happen though. Every individual might know that they aren’t a Java expert, but they don’t know that every other individual is also not an expert. So there is nobody in a position to answer “no”. A lack of response is equivalent to a "no." I suppose I could have phrased it more clearly, but my though is the asker would wait for an affirmative response to proceed with investing more into a…
How long are they going to wait? On low traffic asynchronous chats it's not unusual to get an answer 12 hours later, especially when the chat spans timezones.
Re: Don't ask to ask, just ask (2019)
#138I will respect a no-hello but I personally welcome hellos. I've even put it in a yes-hello on my chat bio. Some people just cannot robotically start a conv and get to the point. I am ok indulging them. If I am busy il just ask "so how can I help". I am glad we have not turned into complete APIs yet!!
Re: Don't ask to ask, just ask (2019)
#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
> A "no" response for the first question could save everyone from wasting their time with the second. That “no” is never going to happen though. Every individual might know that they aren’t a Java expert, but they don’t know that every other individual is also not an expert. So there is nobody in a position to answer “no”.
> That “no” is never going to happen though. Every individual might know that they aren’t a Java expert, but they don’t know that every other individual is also not an expert. So there is nobody in a position to answer “no”. A lack of response is equivalent to a "no." I suppose I could have phrased it more clearly, but my though is the asker would wait for an affirmative response to proceed with investing more into a…
> A lack of response is equivalent to a "no."
It’s not though. I routinely ignore questions like this for questions where I am one of the experts, but I would quite often reply to a real question in the same situation.
Re: Don't ask to ask, just ask (2019)
#140Usually the implication of "hello" is "hello, is now a good time, I got a complex issue that's in your area of expertise?"...
Which, I mean, is what I actually type out when I need to bug somebody.