Ukraine says Russia fired at Belarus from Ukrainian airspace to drag it into war

This is anecdata. I know many Russians and zero of them approve of the current war. This includes the Russians living in Donetsk who had a lot of anger towards the Ukraininan government previously.

Re: Ukraine says Russia fired at Belarus from Ukrainian airspace to drag it into war

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Post by supreme_berry » Fri, Mar 11, 2022, 4:35 PM UTC

hdjjhhvvhga wrote: post #4

supreme_berry wrote: post #2

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This is anecdata. I know many Russians and zero of them approve of the current war. This includes the Russians living in Donetsk who had a lot of anger towards the Ukraininan government previously.

You can go this recent thread about blocking Instagram/Meta and read how they call west "nazi" https://habr.com/ru/news/t/655229/comments

> This includes the Russians living in Donetsk who had a lot of anger towards the Ukraininan government

Got you fam. Take your 15 rubles.

Re: Ukraine says Russia fired at Belarus from Ukrainian airspace to drag it into war

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Post by 323 » Fri, Mar 11, 2022, 4:36 PM UTC

Last year Lukashenko (Belarus president) forced a plane flying over Belarus (from Greece to Lithuania) to land there to arrest a dissident who was criticizing him on board.

Outraged EU imposed sanctions on Belarus, who was forced then to turn to Russia for support.

Now Russia is calling the favor back and forcing him to send troops to Ukraine, which he doesn't want, both because it's a very unpopular move in Belarus, and also because it's pretty clear now that he'll incur heavy losses.

Lukashenko never wanted to be a Russia puppet, but it's funny how his decision to arrest a dissident at any cost basically lead to his country annexation by Russia, which he tried to prevent for 30 years.

Now there are a few more pieces to this story, like the previous elections in Belarus that he blatantly stole, and the fact that Russia was going to submit Belarus one way or the other anyway, but the fact remains that that one small decision greatly accelerated the process. Butterfly effect.

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Post by hakunin » Fri, Mar 11, 2022, 4:45 PM UTC

supreme_berry wrote: post #5

hdjjhhvvhga wrote: post #4

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This is anecdata. I know many Russians and zero of them approve of the current war. This includes the Russians living in Donetsk who had a lot of anger towards the Ukraininan government previously.

You can go this recent thread about blocking Instagram/Meta and read how they call west "nazi" https://habr.com/ru/news/t/655229/comments > This includes the Russians living in Donetsk who had a lot of anger towards the Ukraininan government Got you fam. Take your 15 rubles.

While I won't argue that many Russians are indeed nationalistic and pro-Putin, that thread shows the opposite. All anti-war comments are upvoted, anti-west downvoted. Some comments are sarcasm/irony, maybe it was lost in translation.

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Post by rr808 » Fri, Mar 11, 2022, 4:45 PM UTC

hdjjhhvvhga wrote: post #4

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This is anecdata. I know many Russians and zero of them approve of the current war. This includes the Russians living in Donetsk who had a lot of anger towards the Ukraininan government previously.

Its fascinating I'm following @666_mancer on Twitter and posts a lot of Social Media from Russia about soldier deaths. Extraordinary we can look at this stuff. Most of the comments are supportive (though seem cleaned up) https://vk.com/wall513235930_163856 https://vk.com/wall-18384194_684 https://vk.com/wall183637217_137

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Post by Brian_K_White » Fri, Mar 11, 2022, 4:46 PM UTC

323 wrote: post #6

Last year Lukashenko (Belarus president) forced a plane flying over Belarus (from Greece to Lithuania) to land there to arrest a dissident who was criticizing him on board. Outraged EU imposed sanctions on Belarus, who was forced then to turn to Russia for support. Now Russia is calling the favor back and forcing him to send troops to Ukraine, which he doesn't want, both because it's a very unpopular move in Belarus,…

Examples of this kind of full circle should be taught in schools.

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Post by nofuture1 » Fri, Mar 11, 2022, 4:49 PM UTC

supreme_berry wrote: post #2

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Context: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30632695 (Facebook/Meta made some questionable moderation policy changes, the government decided to block Instagram, people are unhappy).