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I don't trust either Ukraine nor Russia in this matter. I can see Ukraine using it for surveillance and the drone going haywire. I also can see Russia using it as SAM bait but the drone flying off all up to Croatia. I am confused how it managed to go through two NATO countries skies for over 600 KM in a state of heightened alert.
It landed in an area of Zagreb called Jarun. There’s also a place in Ukraine called Yarun. I think someone entered Jarun on Google Maps, selected the wrong place and entered the coordinates without looking. More worrying is that no detection system has seen it.
That might be a multiple comparisons issue. Yarun (Ukraine) is a quite small town, and if not Jarun (neighbourhood) you could have tested against a bunch of street names / shop names / etc that are located around the crash. In the end you'll always be able to link something around the crash site to anything in Ukraine.
Finally, is this drone even controlled using coordinate input?
edit: Seems I was wrong on the one of my points, now removed. Similar name in Cyrillic.
It landed in an area of Zagreb called Jarun. There’s also a place in Ukraine called Yarun. I think someone entered Jarun on Google Maps, selected the wrong place and entered the coordinates without looking. More worrying is that no detection system has seen it.
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South-westwards(?), more than 500km in the wrong direction. But accidents do happen, of course.
The Tu-141 has a range of about 1000km, so presumably 2000km one way. Draw a 2000km line form Zagreb through pretty much anywhere in Ukraine and you end up a little way over the border into Russia. Seems pretty obvious what could have happened and not terribly surprising. The surprising thing to me is that it crashed in a city center vs the countryside. edit: Though the Jarun/Yarun both spelled "Ярун" theory would to…
1000km I've seen around refers to range of flight, not mission range, so no need to double it.
edit: Removed some speculation.
I don't trust either Ukraine nor Russia in this matter. I can see Ukraine using it for surveillance and the drone going haywire. I also can see Russia using it as SAM bait but the drone flying off all up to Croatia. I am confused how it managed to go through two NATO countries skies for over 600 KM in a state of heightened alert.
>I am confused how it managed to go through two NATO countries skies for over 600 KM in a state of heightened alert. Being small, having a low RCS, and flying low enough to evade radar, means that most states probably had difficulties tracking it accurately. Romania claimed they saw it on radar for only 3 minutes. [1]. https://www.hotnews.ro/stiri-defense-25428132-drona-ucrainea...
Russia invested in Kalibr missiles so heavily for this exact reason.
It landed in an area of Zagreb called Jarun. There’s also a place in Ukraine called Yarun. I think someone entered Jarun on Google Maps, selected the wrong place and entered the coordinates without looking. More worrying is that no detection system has seen it.
I don't trust either Ukraine nor Russia in this matter. I can see Ukraine using it for surveillance and the drone going haywire. I also can see Russia using it as SAM bait but the drone flying off all up to Croatia. I am confused how it managed to go through two NATO countries skies for over 600 KM in a state of heightened alert.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Tu-141 has a range of about 1000km, so presumably 2000km one way. Draw a 2000km line form Zagreb through pretty much anywhere in Ukraine and you end up a little way over the border into Russia. Seems pretty obvious what could have happened and not terribly surprising. The surprising thing to me is that it crashed in a city center vs the countryside. edit: Though the Jarun/Yarun both spelled "Ярун" theory would to…
> The Tu-141 has a range of about 1000km, so presumably 2000km one way. 1000km I've seen around refers to range of flight, not mission range, so no need to double it. edit: Removed some speculation.