Apple AirTags draining battery of devices close by

Post by cruano » Fri, Mar 11, 2022, 2:21 PM UTC

southerntofu wrote: post #219

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How does building closed source products fight open source? They’re not at odds with each other.

Because either you're struggling for human progress doing research and building tech that empowers people, or you're struggling for profit building harmful tech for the common people. Apple is in the latter category (to be fair, most if not all hardware/software manufacturers are) and has shown time and time again that they were strongly opposed to consumer rights: - pushing updates to slow down older iOS to "encoura…

Post by stavros » Fri, Mar 11, 2022, 2:22 PM UTC

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I haven't found anything that compares to even a middling wired boom mic. Wireless has too much latency and non-boom has too much noise. The only thing better is an actual VoIP phone (eg Polycom).

It is polarizing though. There are a lot of people who will get positively offended at the notion that their wireless earbuds are not perfect. One of the things that biases is that they hear the others OK, so assume the earbuds are fine. What needs digging is to understand that when somebody has open mike like that, most meeting software engages heavy noise reduction or even half-duplex conversation; so there's a lot…

Post by kayodelycaon » Fri, Mar 11, 2022, 2:25 PM UTC

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And we still wonder why misinformation moves so much faster than truth. It has to be some kind of emotional thing. How many people just saw the headline, immediately decided it must be true, and will now be sure to mention it any time someone mentions AirTags in the future. I doubt this is exactly a new phenomenon, but it sure seems surprising the human race has made it as far as we have successfully.

To be fair, you've fallen into the same trap. One person says they don't have a problem, you believe them and start saying the first statement must be misinformation. It's possible that both people are correct and the circumstances that cause the battery to drain require being connected to a AirTag, not just near any old AirTag. Or there are other circumstances that cause the battery to drain.

Post by Schroedingersat » Fri, Mar 11, 2022, 2:26 PM UTC

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Except they're not aware of the cost to them so it's not actually consent, and I can't stop them from sending apple or google a message to help track me if i turn one of my bluetooth devices on.

What is the threshold for how informed someone must be in order to be allowed to give consent or make their own decisions here? What responsibility would you place on Apple here versus on the consumers of its devices, specifically? More than likely if you ask for more than what exists what will actually happen is that another blurb will show up in the long terms of service that most people don't read and people aren'…

Post by kayodelycaon » Fri, Mar 11, 2022, 2:28 PM UTC

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Things broadcasting on WiFi can drain an iPad. I have some WiFi light bulbs and they are pretty noisy. I had to put my iPads on a separate vlan to keep them from draining in a few days of standby. My Mac laptops don’t have this issue. I think it’s because they are configured to not awake up on standby unless plugged in.

Now that's an interesting one. I'm glad I haven't run into that. I've got ~50 noisy little wifi switches in my house, but it hasn't affected my iPad battery life. -knock on wood-