Israel passes law denying naturalization to Palestinian spouses

Post by arielb1 » Fri, Mar 11, 2022, 1:50 PM UTC

School-Cotton wrote: post #91

mupuff1234 wrote: post #85

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I'm not a fan of the occupation of the West Bank, but those are not 1:1 scenarios. West Bank was occupied after Jordan initiated the offensive, not Israel, as opposed to Russia who is the aggressor. A 1:1 scenario would be if Ukraine invaded Russia and then Russia took control over Ukraine territory, which in that case i'd argue the outcry would be minimal.

As I replied to a similar comment that was deleted: this is irrelevant ancient history. What matters is that Israel is maintaining their illegal occupation even today, and even expanding it (building new settlements, etc.)

Post by vivekd » Fri, Mar 11, 2022, 1:51 PM UTC

pirate787 wrote: post #106

School-Cotton wrote: post #91

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As I replied to a similar comment that was deleted: this is irrelevant ancient history. What matters is that Israel is maintaining their illegal occupation even today, and even expanding it (building new settlements, etc.)

The fact that the Arab world united and attempted to destroy Israel through invasion multiple times is not ancient history and certainly not irrelevant.

Post by [deleted] » Fri, Mar 11, 2022, 1:52 PM UTC

mupuff1234 wrote: post #121

School-Cotton wrote: post #91

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As I replied to a similar comment that was deleted: this is irrelevant ancient history. What matters is that Israel is maintaining their illegal occupation even today, and even expanding it (building new settlements, etc.)

If history doesn't matter why do you even consider it occupied territory?

Post by borispavlovic » Fri, Mar 11, 2022, 1:53 PM UTC

pavelrub wrote: post #115

simiones wrote: post #80

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This is not about inter-religious marriages - this is about Arab or Christian Israeli citizens marrying other Arab or Christian Palestinians (or Lebanese and and a few other countries). This is as if the USA denied the right to extend your citizenship to a Mexican spouse - in some ways worse than the inter-religious thing.

> this is about Arab or Christian Israeli citizens This is incorrect. There is no distinction in the law between Arab Israelis and Jewish Israelis. The law applies equally to Israeli Jews who wish to marry a resident of the WB/Gaza, or one of the other countries mentioned in the law.

Post by reallydontask » Fri, Mar 11, 2022, 1:54 PM UTC

mupuff1234 wrote: post #85

School-Cotton wrote: post #26

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Same reason Russia is getting flak for invading and occupying territory (including, even, from Israel!) when Israel has illegally occupied the West Bank for decades with no consequences. Western countries apply their moral principles differently to their allies.

I'm not a fan of the occupation of the West Bank, but those are not 1:1 scenarios. West Bank was occupied after Jordan initiated the offensive, not Israel, as opposed to Russia who is the aggressor. A 1:1 scenario would be if Ukraine invaded Russia and then Russia took control over Ukraine territory, which in that case i'd argue the outcry would be minimal.