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Twitter makes it harder to choose the old reverse-chronological feed

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Re: Twitter makes it harder to choose the old reverse-chronological feed

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the problem with Nitter is you can see only one user's timeline, I want to see multiple users combined, then I can ditch Twitter site completely just for passive reading, but until then it's still more convenient with one account read multiple accounts in one timeline instead opening them one by one unless I'm missing something and Nitter allows combined timeline from multiple accounts

Nitter supports RSS - just add every account you want to follow as an RSS feed through Nitter.

it supports, but then you need to find RSS reader which will display those feeds in Twitter style, I tried and haven't found such reader

It would be much easier if they allowed to display mutliple accounts at same time, since they allow it separately anyway already

Re: Twitter makes it harder to choose the old reverse-chronological feed

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When I joined FB there were no ads and a chronological feed and everything was awesome. Reddit was awesome. Nowadays they are an evil manipulation mess, but I don't think it is an inherit property of social networks.

Phase 1: user acquisition. Phase 2: profit (through using and abusing their users). Both steps are written in stone in their business plan on day 1, you just don't know it. As a user you were still in phase 1. Similar story with image hosting websites. First they don't have ads and load fast and don't really have image restrictions. Then they start adding restrictions and ads.

Profit doesn't have to be equivalent to abuse. The idea that you have to abuse your users to make a profit is a relatively new one pioneered by Silicon Valley scum thanks to anti-competitive practices and lax/non-existent regulation.

Before this, we had centuries of businesses who were sustainable by just charging a fair premium on the goods they sold to their customers, and both sides were happy enough with the transaction to continue.

Re: Twitter makes it harder to choose the old reverse-chronological feed

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That's pretty much the thinking behind layouts of malls and grocery stores. Grocery stores put common items like milk way in the back, in order to have you traverse the whole store and get exposed to as many meters of shelf as possible. They generally also like to change placement of product, to make sure you don't learn the layout and get too efficient at navigating. Malls try to balance enabling people to find what…

> Grocery stores put common items like milk way in the back, in order to have you traverse the whole store and get exposed to as many meters of shelf as possible. They generally also like to change placement of product, to make sure you don't learn the layout and get too efficient at navigating. Wonder if the covid-catalyzed uptake on grocery pickup options will change this in any way. I certainly discovered the joys…

This just moves the tracking, stalking & dark patterns online.

Re: Twitter makes it harder to choose the old reverse-chronological feed

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Is there any easy way to follow a couple of Twitter accounts in chronological order without having a Twitter account? Nitter is nice to follow individual accounts, but you have to go to each account 1 by 1 rather than create a personal timeline with chronological posts from different accounts.

Use nitter.net and just use nitter.net/handle1,handle2,handle3

Re: Twitter makes it harder to choose the old reverse-chronological feed

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Twitter "helpfully" shows suggestions, ads, tweets people you follow liked, tweets from people followed by people you follow, replies by people you follow that don't appear in their timeline, etc. etc., and the tweets are sorted however the app decides that day. None of those things happen in lists.

Yesterday I noticed twitter had 9+ "followed by an account you follow" "recommended topic" "utter bullshit nobody godamn wants" I think my other new favorite is having to click "more replies" after what, 8 tweets? Garbo.

Thankfully "Tweak New Twitter" in chrome cleans all that up. Along with some select muted strings to suppress promoted tweets. Ofc it also helps that I don't use twitter on mobile at all and confine it's use to my desktop computer.

Been a very good idea these past doomscrolly years.

Re: Twitter makes it harder to choose the old reverse-chronological feed

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Twitter "helpfully" shows suggestions, ads, tweets people you follow liked, tweets from people followed by people you follow, replies by people you follow that don't appear in their timeline, etc. etc., and the tweets are sorted however the app decides that day. None of those things happen in lists.

Yesterday I noticed twitter had 9+ "followed by an account you follow" "recommended topic" "utter bullshit nobody godamn wants" I think my other new favorite is having to click "more replies" after what, 8 tweets? Garbo.

And most of those disappear into thin air when you click on them, as if they never existed. There's a lot of stuff that Twitter simply buries.

Re: Twitter makes it harder to choose the old reverse-chronological feed

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Phase 1: user acquisition. Phase 2: profit (through using and abusing their users). Both steps are written in stone in their business plan on day 1, you just don't know it. As a user you were still in phase 1. Similar story with image hosting websites. First they don't have ads and load fast and don't really have image restrictions. Then they start adding restrictions and ads.

Profit doesn't have to be equivalent to abuse. The idea that you have to abuse your users to make a profit is a relatively new one pioneered by Silicon Valley scum thanks to anti-competitive practices and lax/non-existent regulation. Before this, we had centuries of businesses who were sustainable by just charging a fair premium on the goods they sold to their customers, and both sides were happy enough with the tran…

Well, considering the context of this thread, are there any social networks not working based on the Silicon Valley model? I don't know any.
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