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Israel passes law denying naturalization to Palestinian spouses

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Re: Israel passes law denying naturalization to Palestinian spouses

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Post by simiones »

Arubis wrote: post #46
joshgel wrote: post #16

“JAFFA, March 10 (Reuters) - Israel’s parliament on Thursday passed a law denying naturalization to Palestinians from the occupied West Bank or Gaza married to Israeli citizens, forcing thousands of Palestinian families to either emigrate or live apart.” Abhorrent but not about preventing marriages, at least not directly

Does naturalization in this particular context confer citizenship with voting rights? I’m curious if blocking shifts in the electorate is a motive for this move.

Yes, that is precisely the reason. This is what the mention of "the Jewish character" of Israel boils down to.

They will also claim it is about preventing terrorism, but that is an extremely transparent fig leaf.

Re: Israel passes law denying naturalization to Palestinian spouses

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Post by School-Cotton »

[deleted] wrote: post #54
School-Cotton wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same reason Russia is getting flak for invading and occupying territory (including, even, from Israel!) when Israel has illegally occupied the West Bank for decades with no consequences. Western countries apply their moral principles differently to their allies.

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> West Bank was occupied after a war that Israel did not start

That is irrelevant ancient history. What matters is that they continue expanding their occupation (building new settlements, passing new discriminatory laws, etc.) today.

Re: Israel passes law denying naturalization to Palestinian spouses

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Post by pthread_t »

algo_trader wrote: post #49
quelsolaar wrote: post #2

This is an apartheid regime. Plain and simple.

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The politicians who enacted this law outright said that it's to preserve Israel's favored demographic majority.

Did the U.S. prevent Iraqis from marrying Americans in 2003? What about Afghans in 2001?

Re: Israel passes law denying naturalization to Palestinian spouses

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Post by Phenomenit »

causi wrote: post #22
emptyparadise wrote: post #5

>Proponents say the law helps ensure Israel's security and maintains its "Jewish character". What the fuck?

Israel has always been the ethno-state white nationalists dream of, just centered on the wrong race.

Oh the irony...

Re: Israel passes law denying naturalization to Palestinian spouses

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Post by 1337shadow »

kergonath wrote: post #41
1337shadow wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly why I'm asking why proponents believe they do: it's not in the article. Sorry if this wasn't clear, I'm non native. I'm also asking why it's not in the article. I don't mind the downvotes, but I'd love an answer ;)

I think it’s just about making their lives miserable so they go live somewhere else.

That is a probability, but seems too simple, and is in complete contradiction with all the other stuff Israel has done so far make the life of arabic Israelians enjoyable there, such as hiring arab police officers, the entry of an Arab political party—the Islamist United Arab List, or Ra’am—into government for the first time has signaled that progress could be in the offing, having the same rights as Jewish Israelis...

Re: Israel passes law denying naturalization to Palestinian spouses

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Post by School-Cotton »

eatonphil wrote: post #52
School-Cotton wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same reason Russia is getting flak for invading and occupying territory (including, even, from Israel!) when Israel has illegally occupied the West Bank for decades with no consequences. Western countries apply their moral principles differently to their allies.

South Africa is/was a western ally. And the West did ignore apartheid for a long time.

> South Africa is/was a western ally.

Maybe, but not one of nearly the same strategic importance (and lobbying/PR prowess) as Israel.

Re: Israel passes law denying naturalization to Palestinian spouses

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Post by pthread_t »

kergonath wrote: post #41
1337shadow wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly why I'm asking why proponents believe they do: it's not in the article. Sorry if this wasn't clear, I'm non native. I'm also asking why it's not in the article. I don't mind the downvotes, but I'd love an answer ;)

I think it’s just about making their lives miserable so they go live somewhere else.

You're not wrong.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israeli-right-wing-party...

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jonathan-adly wrote: post #60

This is how the Middle East works by the way. Interreligious marriages are a very big deal and banned in every single Middle Eastern country. The good countries will refuse to issue a marriage license to you, the bad countries will send the police to watch as a mob lynches you. If you see Israel as some kind of psuedo-western state, then yea, you should be shocked. But as a Middle Eastern country, this is just anothe…

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