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Israel passes law denying naturalization to Palestinian spouses

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Re: Israel passes law denying naturalization to Palestinian spouses

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

South Africa took a lot of flak for their apartheid. Wonder why the same doesn't happen with this apartheid in the XXI century. That's a shame.

Same reason Russia is getting flak for invading and occupying territory (including, even, from Israel!) when Israel has illegally occupied the West Bank for decades with no consequences. Western countries apply their moral principles differently to their allies.

South Africa is/was a western ally. And the West did ignore apartheid for a long time.

Re: Israel passes law denying naturalization to Palestinian spouses

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Can we sanction Israel next, please?

Not likely to happen, I think. It would be construed as "antisemitic". But even apart from sanctions, Israel receives foreign aid and grants from the US.

Unfortunately true. It’s been darkly amusing to see the total absence of outcry when boycotts, divestments, and sanctions were decided against Russia, but somehow exactly the same thing is a crime against humanity when it’s against a segregated theocracy.

Re: Israel passes law denying naturalization to Palestinian spouses

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

South Africa took a lot of flak for their apartheid. Wonder why the same doesn't happen with this apartheid in the XXI century. That's a shame.

Same reason Russia is getting flak for invading and occupying territory (including, even, from Israel!) when Israel has illegally occupied the West Bank for decades with no consequences. Western countries apply their moral principles differently to their allies.

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Re: Israel passes law denying naturalization to Palestinian spouses

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If you’re trying to pacify a group wouldn’t you encourage integration, instead of banning it?

like what China is doing with the Uyghurs? Re-education and labor camps, forced migration, forced sterilization.

(not saying that's what you're advocating, just that that is one approach in use today, and given Israel's transgressions against the Palestinians I wouldn't be surprised if they were capable of that).

Re: Israel passes law denying naturalization to Palestinian spouses

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This is how the Middle East works by the way. Interreligious marriages are a very big deal and banned in every single Middle Eastern country.

The good countries will refuse to issue a marriage license to you, the bad countries will send the police to watch as a mob lynches you.

If you see Israel as some kind of psuedo-western state, then yea, you should be shocked. But as a Middle Eastern country, this is just another Thursday. Personally, I don't see Israel any different than I see Turkey, Egypt, or Jordan.(Allies that get lots of money from the US with questionable behavior)

edit: I think is wrong by the way, so not justifying. This is just how things work in the Middle East - where nations do terrible things in the name of preserving their "religious" identity.

edit x2: Sources: 1. https://www.brookings.edu/blog/markaz/2016/06/20/what-egypt-... 2. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/02/persecution-dr... 3. Any of the State Dept religious freedoms reports here: https://www.state.gov/reports/2020-report-on-international-r...

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