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Re: Replacement for RubyMine

#12
JetBrains is headquartered in Prague, Czech Republic and the leadership most probably don't approve of what is going on. Are you sure you want to cut some people off just because of where they were born to whom? This is really low, besides the alternatives for Ruby would be either Sublime or some electron-based crap - vscode, atom, etc.

Re: Replacement for RubyMine

#13

Vim is forever. But if you're happy with RubyMine please continue using it and supporting JetBrains. They're ok. https://twitter.com/jetbrains/status/1496786254494670851

That statement is vague and does not say they are against the attacks.

Re: Replacement for RubyMine

#14

Vim is forever. But if you're happy with RubyMine please continue using it and supporting JetBrains. They're ok. https://twitter.com/jetbrains/status/1496786254494670851

That statement is vague and does not say they are against the attacks.

it literally says "we condemn the attacks"?

Re: Replacement for RubyMine

#15
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I would be interested in an alternative too. I know JetBrains was created by Russians living in Czech republic so I am not sure it is directly supporting the russian state, however I am sure the devs have family in Russia that could be pressured. I am also concerned that there was rumours that the solarwinds hack was as a result of malicious code in RubyMine.

They made a public statement within a day from the invasion citing they strongly object it. Being a Russian and doing this publicly - so early - is pretty dangerous for the founders. So yea, they aren't supporting Putin, you can calm your mind and continue using RM because an alternative doesn't exist.

Ftr: https://twitter.com/jetbrains/status/1496786254494670851

And later https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2022/03/11/jetbrains-stateme...

Re: Replacement for RubyMine

#16

JetBrains is headquartered in Prague, Czech Republic and the leadership most probably don't approve of what is going on. Are you sure you want to cut some people off just because of where they were born to whom? This is really low, besides the alternatives for Ruby would be either Sublime or some electron-based crap - vscode, atom, etc.

Unfortunately, it's not that simple. Yes, technically, they're a Czech company. However, their founders as well as most of their R&D staff are currently located in Russia and hence probably paying taxes in Russia rather than the Czech Republic.

I don't know about the company's exact structure and where their profit ends up but given their rather small headquarters in Prague in contrast to their huge offices in Saint Petersburg, it's probably fair to say that a significant share of that money is invested - and taxed - in Russia.

Re: Replacement for RubyMine

#17
In my opinion, there's simply no replacement for their IDEs.

Also, are you sure you want to politicize your work at that level? If yes, then you also shouldn't be using AWS, Azure, or Google cloud, as all of them do business with countries you won't like and with weapons companies. Did you know some nuclear submarines run on Windows XP? Bye, Microsoft. Btw, they also pay taxes in Russia. https://officesnapshots.com/2018/09/04/microsoft-offices-mos...

I guess your only remaining choice will be to go all in on open source.

Re: Replacement for RubyMine

#18

JetBrains is headquartered in Prague, Czech Republic and the leadership most probably don't approve of what is going on. Are you sure you want to cut some people off just because of where they were born to whom? This is really low, besides the alternatives for Ruby would be either Sublime or some electron-based crap - vscode, atom, etc.

Unfortunately, it's not that simple. Yes, technically, they're a Czech company. However, their founders as well as most of their R&D staff are currently located in Russia and hence probably paying taxes in Russia rather than the Czech Republic. I don't know about the company's exact structure and where their profit ends up but given their rather small headquarters in Prague in contrast to their huge offices in Saint…

Then should us, Android developers, abandon Kotlin and Android Studio? Both are also Jetbrain's products.

Hmm...

Re: Replacement for RubyMine

#20

In my opinion, there's simply no replacement for their IDEs. Also, are you sure you want to politicize your work at that level? If yes, then you also shouldn't be using AWS, Azure, or Google cloud, as all of them do business with countries you won't like and with weapons companies. Did you know some nuclear submarines run on Windows XP? Bye, Microsoft. Btw, they also pay taxes in Russia. https://officesnapshots.com/2…

This is not about “countries we don’t like” or petty political or ideological squabbles but rather a very real, current situation.

Whether or not to continue to support a company that arguably pays significant taxes into the - only very slightly figurative - war chest of a country actively waging war right now, is a valid question.

Then, there’s the nasty aspect of Russian intelligence agencies figuring out (or having already done so) that with a widely used IDE product they have a valuable asset at their disposal.

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