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Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians

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Re: Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians

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ratsmack wrote: post #214
mardifoufs wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just hope no one ever uses the catchy rule of thumb that"if 9 people sit around a table with 1 nazi, there are 10 nazis around that table" again seriously after this haha. It's that not even 1 month ago if one person at a protest had a nazi flag everyone protesting there was also labeled a nazi. But you got NATO publicly glorifying soldiers with literal nazi insignia (the black sun) and that's just being the good g…

I had never heard of Oliver Stone's "Ukraine On Fire" documentary until YouTube banned it, so I watched it last night to see what the problem was. It seemed to be a well documented summary of the events in Ukraine in the last 25 years or so. One notable thing was the number of times Nazis were entered into the picture, and it is strange that no one is talking about it. I can say my perspective has changed a little bi…

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Re: Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians

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Post by kderbyma »

IAmWorried wrote: post #58

What the actual fuck is wrong with these people? Calling for literal violence against Russians is less dangerous than claiming masks aren't helpful? Is there something here I'm not getting?

Facebook is dead. Zucked up big time...I don't look at fuck up and ask why they are moral failures....I assume that's their character.

Re: Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians

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Post by ABoredBirb »

ashwagary wrote: post #220
keewee7 wrote: post #172

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>War makes unlikely alliances. If you're fighting for the existence of your country you're not going to say no to the help of nazis. Well said. When Nazi Germany occupied Denmark it was a far-right conservative Danish resistance movement that helped Danish Jews flee to Sweden.

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Where in the hell are you getting 10% from? Ukraine has a multi-party government and their neo-nazis don't have even a single seat in their rather large parliament.

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Post by sofixa »

cato_the_elder wrote: post #143
delusional wrote: post #94

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War makes unlikely alliances. If you're fighting for the existence of your country you're not going to say no to the help of nazis. And if you're using the biggest social media platform on the planet to organize that war, you're going to want your allies on it. What you've just discovered is that a unified policy across the entire world isn't actually the right policy. In one country you may want to ban some stuff yo…

> War makes unlikely alliances. That is certainly true. There are many examples of that. Israel provided weapons and advisers to Iran during the Iran-Iraq war. They even bombed an Iraqi nuclear reactor for them. [1] A more widely known example is the alliance between US and the Soviets during the WW2. > What you've just discovered is that a unified policy across the entire world isn't actually the right policy. I dis…

But the laws are different in different countries ( duh!). Antisemitism isn't illegal in the US, but is an actual crime in France just to give one example.

Re: Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians

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Post by sofixa »

ashwagary wrote: post #220
keewee7 wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>War makes unlikely alliances. If you're fighting for the existence of your country you're not going to say no to the help of nazis. Well said. When Nazi Germany occupied Denmark it was a far-right conservative Danish resistance movement that helped Danish Jews flee to Sweden.

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That 8-10% sounds wildly overestimated. Furthermore, neo-Nazis tend to be young males, who can't even quit the country now and are mobilised in the army, not to mention that a neo-Nazi is the type of person to die for their country(really not saying that as a positive), so the number of neo-Nazi refugees should be in the tens of people, not hundreds of thousands.

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Post by sofixa »

forum_ghost wrote: post #117
323 wrote: post #90

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The Israeli military is arming and training the neo-nazi militias in Ukraine. There are even Orthodox Jews who joined the Azov neo-nazi militias to defend Ukraine. Sometimes it can be complicated. https://www.timesofisrael.com/ukrainian-jews-push-back-again... https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/rights-groups-demand-isr...

Israel sells weapons to anyone, it's just business. As for the "orthodox jews fighting alongside nazis", that is just an unfounded claim, without any evidence other than double hearsay in a third-rate newspaper. Orthodox jews often don't serve even in Israel (inb4: yes, yes, ulta-orthodox, etc etc, but still, and yeshiva students are still exempt). I'd like to see stronger evidence than hearsay for this extraordinary…

Israel refused to sell the Iron Dome and similar systems to Ukraine, so not everyone.

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Post by 28304283409234 »

Both the Reuters as well as the HN title flip the actual statements of Meta.

Article specifically states that it differentiates between "Russians", and "Russian Military/Soldiers".

> "The Hate Speech policy continues to prohibit attacks on Russians," the email stated.

Re: Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians

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Post by darebak »

28304283409234 wrote: post #227

Both the Reuters as well as the HN title flip the actual statements of Meta. Article specifically states that it differentiates between "Russians", and "Russian Military/Soldiers". > "The Hate Speech policy continues to prohibit attacks on Russians," the email stated.

So those that spread hate against Russians can now just say they are calling for violence against the Russian government. It's a cop out.

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Post by rightbyte »

ratsmack wrote: post #214
mardifoufs wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just hope no one ever uses the catchy rule of thumb that"if 9 people sit around a table with 1 nazi, there are 10 nazis around that table" again seriously after this haha. It's that not even 1 month ago if one person at a protest had a nazi flag everyone protesting there was also labeled a nazi. But you got NATO publicly glorifying soldiers with literal nazi insignia (the black sun) and that's just being the good g…

I had never heard of Oliver Stone's "Ukraine On Fire" documentary until YouTube banned it, so I watched it last night to see what the problem was. It seemed to be a well documented summary of the events in Ukraine in the last 25 years or so. One notable thing was the number of times Nazis were entered into the picture, and it is strange that no one is talking about it. I can say my perspective has changed a little bi…

> One notable thing was the number of times Nazis were entered into the picture, and it is strange that no one is talking about it.

The violent phase of the Maiden square riots looked like postapocalyptic neonazi live action roleplaying. Clear nazi esthetics. I guess many of them were to, in hindsight.

It is strange becouse I guess the Ukraine gov. does not need the Azov batallion anymore. They probably can't get rid of them (easely) even if they wanted.

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Post by hoffs »

mrtksn wrote: post #71

That's appalling and will be one of the last coffins on foreign run communication systems everywhere. Can you imagine that some techies in California start deciding which people are to be attacked in your country or by your country? It's also probably not techies that are deciding that but that's not the point. That's such a nation security threat that no country with sane government can afford to allow. Wars, genoci…

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