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Twitter makes it harder to choose the old reverse-chronological feed

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Re: Twitter makes it harder to choose the old reverse-chronological feed

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Post by thrdbndndn »

jsnell wrote: post #11
LeoPanthera wrote: post #4

I feel like I'm the only person in the world who likes the "algorithmic" feed. In theory I follow few enough people to be able to sit down and read every tweet - I rarely want to. The magical "algorithm" seems to do a reasonable job of raising tweets with high activity, or tweets from people I often interact with, to the top. This seems entirely reasonable to me, and if I want to see the rest, I can just keep scrolli…

The problem isn't with reordering the timeline. It's that the algorithmic timeline will insert all kinds of total garbage posted by people I don't follow into the timeline. The real timeline is easy to curate. Just follow people who post interesting things, then unfollow people who turn out to tweet too much about things you have no interest in. The algorithmic timeline makes that impossible.

I actually like these recommendations. Then again I mainly use Twitter to look for arts, so it's less important that a tweet is posted by someone I follow or not.

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Post by zeepzeep »

ricardobeat wrote: post #63

They’ve made the decision to lay down the algorithm long ago. Mind you, I can absolutely see that activity on Twitter has only been going up recently. Which would be great if 80% of it wasn’t self-promotion, crypto babble and spam, plagiarized content, and LinkedIn style “expert” threads. On top of that, all of the promoted tweets I see are junk content farms. It hasn’t been an ideal place for connecting with friends…

You guys really need to get your twitter feed in order. You realize that they have an option to only show latest tweets of people you follow? Then it's just about unfollowing all crypto spammers and you're good. While my feed isn't free of undesired content, it's far better than any other platform I use, including HN (because the good bits from HN get shared on Twitter).

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Post by watwut »

wodenokoto wrote: post #36
anonymoushn wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hotels can try boosting user retention, as measured by minutes spent in the room, by hiding guests' belongings while they are away.

That's pretty much the thinking behind layouts of malls and grocery stores. Grocery stores put common items like milk way in the back, in order to have you traverse the whole store and get exposed to as many meters of shelf as possible. They generally also like to change placement of product, to make sure you don't learn the layout and get too efficient at navigating. Malls try to balance enabling people to find what…

> They generally also like to change placement of product, to make sure you don't learn the layout and get too efficient at navigating.

I dont know if this is really happening. Grocery stores where I go are fairly static. They change layout once in years and larger one have big signs that tell you where what roughly is.

Re: Twitter makes it harder to choose the old reverse-chronological feed

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Post by Tenoke »

They might make it harder to choose but props to Twitter for still having the chronological option and allowing access through alternative interfaces like Tweetdeck unlike say Facebook.

Also props for letting you to just straight block in the normal way the account behind an ad you see.

Re: Twitter makes it harder to choose the old reverse-chronological feed

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Post by thiht »

The word thing is that the « Home » feed is soooo bad. Twitter switched me to the home feed without my knowledge and I was like « wtf this tweet is 2 months old + I’ve already liked it + it’s not even active »… I thought it was a cache issue

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Post by TeddyDD »

amatecha wrote: post #13

If you want "Twitter" without ads, algorithmic feed manipulated by marketing, actual moderation, and actual community, I suggest joining a Mastodon[0] instance (and you probably already know people who are on the platform, making it easier to choose which instance ;)). It's kinda like using Twitter in 2007, but with way more features. For example, selective permissions per-"toot" ("followers only", or "unlisted" whic…

This. I'm still on Twitter for lol content, but I can dump it at any moment. Mastodon is great.

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Post by whiplash451 »

jwmoz wrote: post #51

I hate Twitter for all the change they've made-more spam and useless engagement features. I noticed this in testing some time ago, constantly making it hard just to see what I want, not the Algo suggested tweets, other peoples likes, spam etc. Every tech company is going down the same route, spam and advertising until they force power users away in disgust. Just this week I've had the same annoying random Chinese lan…

Same here. Seems like they are struggling to generate more revenue without making our timelines look terrible.

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jwmoz wrote: post #51

I hate Twitter for all the change they've made-more spam and useless engagement features. I noticed this in testing some time ago, constantly making it hard just to see what I want, not the Algo suggested tweets, other peoples likes, spam etc. Every tech company is going down the same route, spam and advertising until they force power users away in disgust. Just this week I've had the same annoying random Chinese lan…

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Post by winternett »

jwmoz wrote: post #51

I hate Twitter for all the change they've made-more spam and useless engagement features. I noticed this in testing some time ago, constantly making it hard just to see what I want, not the Algo suggested tweets, other peoples likes, spam etc. Every tech company is going down the same route, spam and advertising until they force power users away in disgust. Just this week I've had the same annoying random Chinese lan…

Don't forget other key points...

You can easily be shadowbanned by Twitter for complaining about Twitter on Twitter.

They send you accounts fake and delayed notices to drive engagement.

Muting words and phrases has not worked for years.

They interact with other apps and track words you type and use them to push content and ads to you, likely even when you have the setting for third party data disabled.

The interest keywords associated with your account cannot be changed, it is a pool of data gathered from people you follow and what you've typed over the life of running you account, it often locks you into an information bubble that dictates everything you see for the life of each account, and it also ensures that each use has a customized (yet individually/uniquely frustrating) experience that can't properly be explained nor replicated by any other user.

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