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Launch HN: Optery (YC W22) – Remove your personal info from the internet

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Re: Launch HN: Optery (YC W22) – Remove your personal info from the internet

#131
I just signed up and see I have a hard choice of countries. I'm a dual-citizen and have lived in both countries roughly split my whole life. It would be nice to be able to scan across multiple countries. I've just started with the US half but hoping you can accommodate.

Re: Launch HN: Optery (YC W22) – Remove your personal info from the internet

#132

I just signed up and see I have a hard choice of countries. I'm a dual-citizen and have lived in both countries roughly split my whole life. It would be nice to be able to scan across multiple countries. I've just started with the US half but hoping you can accommodate.

Optery is only for U.S. residents at this time. Sorry, this statement is buried in the middle of the original post so some people did not see it.

If you go to the sign up page, after you select your country, we again warn non-U.S. residents of this before they submit their information. The only benefit to signing up if you are from a non-U.S. country is we will notify you when we begin supporting your country.

If you are a dual citizen, just select your primary city and state in the U.S. There's no functionality to support non-U.S. citizens at this time.

Thank you for trying out Optery!

Re: Launch HN: Optery (YC W22) – Remove your personal info from the internet

#134
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Hi there, just signed up for your free service, and wow, it's creepy to see my childhood home phone number just sitting there next to my name and current address so many times. Three things: First, I'm looking at your paid plans, and what I actually want right now is just to pay $10 to have this current batch taken care of, and then I can repeat the process any time I happen to think about it. I know that's not what…

> what I actually want right now is just to pay $10 to have this current batch taken care of easyoptouts is the closest thing I know of to what you're after. It's still a subscription at $20 p.a., not $10, but you can sign up and then cancel after initial opt outs.

At this price I believe Optery still provides more value than easyoptouts. For $9.99, half the price of easyoptouts, you could let Optery’s opt out bot run for 30 days on 100+ data brokers and then cancel the plan before the next monthly payment is due. For $24.99, about the same price as easyoptouts, you could let Optery’s opt out bot run for 30 days on 200+ data brokers and then cancel the plan before the next monthly payment is due.

By cancelling the plan, you wouldn’t benefit from the ongoing scanning, monitoring, and removals from companies that take longer than 30 days, or the coverage for the new data brokers continually being added to the plans. But Optery’s Free Basic plan provides free quarterly scans and reports, so you could always turn it back on based on what the reports are saying.

Re: Launch HN: Optery (YC W22) – Remove your personal info from the internet

#135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I have to essentially give (through your service) all these companies & data brokers my info Happy user of Optery here: you don't have to give Optery a whole lot of info. No SSNs or anything, just things they would search by to help you remove them. Are there fields for past addresses or people you lived with or past names you may have had? Sure. Do you have to fill them out? No. Are they provided in bulk to the da…

So they will enter all this data on the websites of the brokers which sell such data....this reminds me of the website that promises it contains all/most bitcoin private keys - just enter yours to find out if its there!

In the vast majority of cases Optery only submits the opt out (a) if we’ve already located your profile at the data broker, meaning they already have your information to begin with and (b) with the minimum information necessary to complete the out, generally First Name, Last Name, Age, Current City, and Current State, no more information than what’s already publicly available online.

Re: Launch HN: Optery (YC W22) – Remove your personal info from the internet

#136
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If anyone's interested in alternatives, one of their main competitors, Removaly, openly maintains a list of all the players in the field: https://removaly.com/category/comparisons/ Both Removaly and Optery are pretty solid, but if you want something your friends and family can actually afford, then nothing beats EasyOptOuts. $20 a year and they're pretty good at what they do. The only catch is that while services lik…

Optery covers 200+ data brokers, whereas Removaly only covers 51 data brokers per their web site. Optery’s average scan results find 70+ profiles exposed and often top 100+ profiles exposed (scans are free by the way). Removaly is more comparable to Abine’s DeleteMe service whose “Sites We Remove From” page states they only cover 38 data brokers.

In world where Optery is finding 70 – 100 exposed profiles on a first scan, what use is a service like Removaly or DeleteMe that only officially cover 40 – 50?

Optery’s Ultimate plan also offers something called “Custom Removals”, which means if you find a profile the Ultimate plan does not cover, you can submit it and Optery will make a best effort to remove it: https://help.optery.com/en/article/ultimate-plan-offers-best...

Regarding easyoptouts, if you’re really price sensitive and looking for a super cheap option, just upgrade your Optery plan for 1 month. Let Optery’s opt out bot run for 30 days on 200+ data brokers and then cancel the plan before the next monthly payment is due. By cancelling the plan, you won’t benefit from the ongoing coverage and the new data brokers continually being added to the plans, but Optery’s Free Basic plan provides free quarterly scans and reports, so you could always turn it back on based on what your exposure reports are saying.

Re: Launch HN: Optery (YC W22) – Remove your personal info from the internet

#137

For foreign born citizens, theres's is challenge to enter the minimal data.

Sorry, this statement for citizens outside of the U.S. is buried in the middle of the original post so some people did not see it:

"Optery is only for U.S. residents at this time"

If you go to the Optery sign up page, after you select your country, we again warn non-U.S. residents of this before they submit their information.

The only benefit to signing up for Optery if you are from a non-U.S. country is we will notify you when we begin supporting your country.

Re: Launch HN: Optery (YC W22) – Remove your personal info from the internet

#138

Two recommendations for everyone: 1. Check out the IntelTechniques workbook. You can a lot of this yourself for free. https://inteltechniques.com/workbook.html 2. If you want to hire someone, there are a bunch of similar options. This list was put together by a competitor, easyoptouts, but it seems pretty neutral: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1M1YXTKmfs6rVDJHQVO3V... And a question for Optery: I tried your…

When a user signs up for Optery, the scanning / matching technology finds 70+ matched profiles at data brokers on average with a typical range from 50 to 100. You’ll find these results in your Exposure Report after the scan completes, typically within 1 hour from sign up. False positives in the Optery Exposure Reports are rare, but do happen sometimes. The most common reasons for false positives are:

1) The user either intentionally or accidentally inputs incorrect data when they signed up. For example, today we had a customer complain about false positives, and then when we looked into it, it turned out he had accidentally input his birth year incorrectly when signing up.

2) The user has a common name and lives in a big city. Optery looks at lots of data before its confident in the match, but false positives can slip through for example when there are multiple people named John Robert Smith, age 38, living in New York City.

The best way to reduce false positives, and the accuracy of Optery’s scans in general, is to add more information to your profile beyond the minimum required to sign up (e.g. middle name, past cities and states you’ve lived in, etc). This helps with our matching algorithms.

If what you’re referring to are the "View" links to data brokers in your dashboard, as mentioned elsewhere in the comments, the “View” links have limitations. After the comments here, we made a few quick cosmetic updates to reduce the confusion (the updates are described elsewhere in the comments) and we have several changes planned to make the dashboard more intuitive. More info on what’s going on is here:

https://help.optery.com/en/article/what-if-a-view-link-leads...

Re: Launch HN: Optery (YC W22) – Remove your personal info from the internet

#139

I'm just insanely glad to not reside in countries where data privacy laws are completely horrible. The amount of OSINT available on americans is like 2-3$ to access and on each search I can see stuff in your family history even which is just incredibly crazy. Doesn't work on people from other countries. Food for thought.

Definitely. One of the main reasons Optery is only for U.S. residents at this time, is because the problem is at its worst here. We need a privacy law at the federal level with a strong right to opt out, and some teeth in the law for enforcement.

Re: Launch HN: Optery (YC W22) – Remove your personal info from the internet

#140

"Optery only works for U.S. residents at this time". It would be good to have this clearly stated before the user starts the sign-up process. It's a dark pattern to permit account creation if you can't actually provide a service to some of those signing up.

Sorry. This was stated in the original post text above, but clearly many people did not see it. We do warn people before they submit any information. Many apologies.
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