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Earn-IT threatens encryption and therefore user freedom

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Re: Earn-IT threatens encryption and therefore user freedom

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>Are you "hiding" when you lock the door of your home every day, just because the government is not permitted to enter it without a warrant

If this is your reason then I would say you are trying to hide.

>Is it "hiding" to seal the envelope of the card you're sending your Valentine?

Yes, the point is to keep it a surprise.

>helps protect queer youth from intolerant violence (at home and abroad, as in Ghana).

E2EE doesn't prevent a parent from taking their phone and seeing their messages. These kids aren't communicating to their friends over their parent's IRC server. Most parents aren't technical and wouldn't even know how to MITM even an unencrypted messaging app.

>helping victims out of these relationships by enabling them to contact friends for help

Again most people don't know how to MITM this traffic. Especially if you are using mobile data.

Even in regard to whistleblowers they only need anonymity. They want to do the opposite of hiding their messages. They want the opposite. For as many people as possible to see their messages.

Re: Earn-IT threatens encryption and therefore user freedom

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>Are you "hiding" when you lock the door of your home every day, just because the government is not permitted to enter it without a warrant If this is your reason then I would say you are trying to hide. >Is it "hiding" to seal the envelope of the card you're sending your Valentine? Yes, the point is to keep it a surprise. >helps protect queer youth from intolerant violence (at home and abroad, as in Ghana). E2EE doe…

They are comparing to the word "hide" in the context authorities use it, e.g. "nothing to hide". They are not drawing comparisons using the word generically, and they make this explicit. Your two assertions seem to ignore this (i.e. it seems like you're "playing word games").

Re: Earn-IT threatens encryption and therefore user freedom

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I don’t feel the FSF’s statement benefits the movement against this bill as much as the EFF or ACLU or Fight for the Future statements.

The FSF is stuck in the 80s on everything - whether it be dealing with Stallman or specifying acceptable ways to load firmware, and has failed to accomplish almost anything since GPLv3 in 2006. And after recent events, I’d almost consider dismissing them from involvement in the movement.

Re: Earn-IT threatens encryption and therefore user freedom

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I don’t feel the FSF’s statement benefits the movement against this bill as much as the EFF or ACLU or Fight for the Future statements. The FSF is stuck in the 80s on everything - whether it be dealing with Stallman or specifying acceptable ways to load firmware, and has failed to accomplish almost anything since GPLv3 in 2006. And after recent events, I’d almost consider dismissing them from involvement in the movem…

EFF https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/02/its-back-senators-want...

ACLU https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/aclu-afp-comment-earn-it...

Re: Earn-IT threatens encryption and therefore user freedom

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I don’t feel the FSF’s statement benefits the movement against this bill as much as the EFF or ACLU or Fight for the Future statements. The FSF is stuck in the 80s on everything - whether it be dealing with Stallman or specifying acceptable ways to load firmware, and has failed to accomplish almost anything since GPLv3 in 2006. And after recent events, I’d almost consider dismissing them from involvement in the movem…

I don't think you understand or appreciate the work that FSF does and the comment about Stallman is irrelevant in this regards. I don't see you advocating for MIT to be closed down.

Re: Earn-IT threatens encryption and therefore user freedom

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>Are you "hiding" when you lock the door of your home every day, just because the government is not permitted to enter it without a warrant If this is your reason then I would say you are trying to hide. >Is it "hiding" to seal the envelope of the card you're sending your Valentine? Yes, the point is to keep it a surprise. >helps protect queer youth from intolerant violence (at home and abroad, as in Ghana). E2EE doe…

They are comparing to the word "hide" in the context authorities use it, e.g. "nothing to hide". They are not drawing comparisons using the word generically, and they make this explicit. Your two assertions seem to ignore this (i.e. it seems like you're "playing word games").

At least with locking your door because you are afraid the government is going to break in to your house without a warrant is the same. If someone is doing this either they have done something illegal, e.g. "have something to hide", or they are have a mental issue where they have problems with trust and are overly paranoid.

Re: Earn-IT threatens encryption and therefore user freedom

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I don’t feel the FSF’s statement benefits the movement against this bill as much as the EFF or ACLU or Fight for the Future statements. The FSF is stuck in the 80s on everything - whether it be dealing with Stallman or specifying acceptable ways to load firmware, and has failed to accomplish almost anything since GPLv3 in 2006. And after recent events, I’d almost consider dismissing them from involvement in the movem…

I don't think you understand or appreciate the work that FSF does and the comment about Stallman is irrelevant in this regards. I don't see you advocating for MIT to be closed down.

Since 2006, what have they accomplished?

Bug fixes, sure. They managed to alienate a bunch of people from gcc, which was fun. Their anti-DRM campaign is over a decade old and is running on fumes with no accomplishments.

This is the same organization that when Windows 8 came out, they protested outside Microsoft stores and handed out copies of GNU Trisquel - an OS with only FOSS code back in 2012, which to this day runs on very few systems and likely caused everyone who got copies to look on open source as a buggy flop and actively undermined the cause.

I could go on.

Re: Earn-IT threatens encryption and therefore user freedom

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think you understand or appreciate the work that FSF does and the comment about Stallman is irrelevant in this regards. I don't see you advocating for MIT to be closed down.

Since 2006, what have they accomplished? Bug fixes, sure. They managed to alienate a bunch of people from gcc, which was fun. Their anti-DRM campaign is over a decade old and is running on fumes with no accomplishments. This is the same organization that when Windows 8 came out, they protested outside Microsoft stores and handed out copies of GNU Trisquel - an OS with only FOSS code back in 2012, which to this day ru…

Yes, we should all give up and just adopt Microsoft Linux cause clearly whatever company is able to buy adoption is the best choice.

Re: Earn-IT threatens encryption and therefore user freedom

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>Are you "hiding" when you lock the door of your home every day, just because the government is not permitted to enter it without a warrant If this is your reason then I would say you are trying to hide. >Is it "hiding" to seal the envelope of the card you're sending your Valentine? Yes, the point is to keep it a surprise. >helps protect queer youth from intolerant violence (at home and abroad, as in Ghana). E2EE doe…

> Even in regard to whistleblowers they only need anonymity. They want to do the opposite of hiding their messages. They want the opposite. For as many people as possible to see their messages.

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