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Vaccines and Omicron mean Covid now less deadly than flu in England

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Re: Vaccines and Omicron mean Covid now less deadly than flu in England

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Post by terminatornet »

throwawayboise wrote: post #24
discordance wrote: post #16

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The elderly, people with health conditions and their carers can’t take such liberties. It’s a shame how easily we overlook and disregard swathes of people.

These people have always been more vulnerable to diseases and less likely to survive them. COVID changes nothing.

so do you think we should get rid of safety warnings on products and product recalls? I mean kids and elderly people are more vulnerable to them and according to your logic, these warnings and recalls will do nothing.

Re: Vaccines and Omicron mean Covid now less deadly than flu in England

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Post by awb »

RobertMiller wrote: post #23
awb wrote: post #13

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Preparing for the worst and mitigating risk != being terrified

So were you going through life wearing a mask to mitigate the risk of a deadly flu in 2018 and before? I think probably not, but if your priority is risk mitigation, shouldn't you have been? Risk mitigation is not my priority. If it were, I'd never ride my bike again, even with my helmet. I'd never go kayaking, or rock climbing. I wouldn't swim in lakes, and you'd never catch me in the ocean. If I were preparing for…

> So were you going through life wearing a mask to mitigate the risk of a deadly flu in 2018 and before? I think probably not, but if your priority is risk mitigation, shouldn't you have been?

No because those flu viruses were not novel, or as deadly.

When there is a large degree of uncertainty (like a deadly novel virus), I personally tend towards caution and am fine being too cautious rather than not cautious enough. If you don’t, that’s fine and that’s your choice.

The lifestyle examples you give are too simplistic. I’m willing to bet you’re willing to ride your bike on some roads and not others, or swim at some beaches in some weather conditions and not others. To act like you never assess the situation or act in a way that mitigates your risk is absurd. I bet you wear a seatbelt on occasion and look both ways when crossing the road. Those are risk mitigation techniques.

Re: Vaccines and Omicron mean Covid now less deadly than flu in England

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Post by terminatornet »

kazinator wrote: post #18
terminatornet wrote: post #8

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enjoy your long covid! https://www.njspotlightnews.org/2022/03/living-with-covid-mo...

"Long Covid" is mainly just hypochondria. A lot less of it is real than the hype would have you believe. The media loves spooky stuff because it generates clicks. Hypochondriacs are a thing: they are out there. Some of them have gotten Covid-19, and that of course turns into their new obsession.

interesting, i hadn't heard that. could you tell my what research university in your ass you pulled that out from?

Re: Vaccines and Omicron mean Covid now less deadly than flu in England

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Post by notch656a »

JaimeThompson wrote: post #29
vinyl7 wrote: post #12

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Great way to destroy your immune system

I would love to see research that shows that to be a correct statement and why so many in Asian countries do not seem to have compromised immune systems would be interesting as well.

'Asia' is a big place and it's a pretty bigoted statement to allude 'asia' hygiene/exposure standards exceed those of the reader.

Re: Vaccines and Omicron mean Covid now less deadly than flu in England

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Post by mzvkxlcvd »

kazinator wrote: post #18
terminatornet wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

enjoy your long covid! https://www.njspotlightnews.org/2022/03/living-with-covid-mo...

"Long Covid" is mainly just hypochondria. A lot less of it is real than the hype would have you believe. The media loves spooky stuff because it generates clicks. Hypochondriacs are a thing: they are out there. Some of them have gotten Covid-19, and that of course turns into their new obsession.

to add to that, its pretty common for respiratory infections to take months to clear up. its not a covid specific thing

Re: Vaccines and Omicron mean Covid now less deadly than flu in England

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Post by polypodiopsi »

discordance wrote: post #16
mzvkxlcvd wrote: post #6

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better hide inside forever just to be sure

The elderly, people with health conditions and their carers can’t take such liberties. It’s a shame how easily we overlook and disregard swathes of people.

A lot of older people also have settled down, have bigger flats or houses and aren't so badly affected as young people. Having to do with kids a lot my experience has been, that the last two years have been brutal for those in puberty e.g. The people between 12 and 30 really have been, and you will find this to be statistically evaluated, hit the hardest in terms of mental health issues on average. So from their viewpoint it is imho a valid question to ask how much they sould be willing to hold back anymore and ignore the things that are important in the lives of the young.

Re: Vaccines and Omicron mean Covid now less deadly than flu in England

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Post by terminatornet »

tastyfreeze wrote: post #20
bryanlarsen wrote: post #10

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You do realize there is a happy middle ground between hiding inside forever and pretending COVID doesn't exist, right?

Yes, that middle ground is stopping all required COVID mitigations and let people live their lives as they did before. COVID is here to stay. Time to start treating it like every other endemic disease. ps Pretty sure the comment you responded to was sarcasm.

>To an epidemiologist, an endemic infection is one in which overall rates are static — not rising, not falling. More precisely, it means that the proportion of people who can get sick balances out the ‘basic reproduction number’ of the virus, the number of individuals that an infected individual would infect, assuming a population in which everyone could get sick. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00155-x

covid isn't endemic

Re: Vaccines and Omicron mean Covid now less deadly than flu in England

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Post by quantum_magpie »

RobertMiller wrote: post #23
awb wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Preparing for the worst and mitigating risk != being terrified

So were you going through life wearing a mask to mitigate the risk of a deadly flu in 2018 and before? I think probably not, but if your priority is risk mitigation, shouldn't you have been? Risk mitigation is not my priority. If it were, I'd never ride my bike again, even with my helmet. I'd never go kayaking, or rock climbing. I wouldn't swim in lakes, and you'd never catch me in the ocean. If I were preparing for…

>So were you going through life wearing a mask to mitigate the risk of a deadly flu in 2018 and before? I think probably not, but if your priority is risk mitigation, shouldn't you have been?

During flu season? Of course. As well as soon any cold symptoms were felt. My institution would also issue stay-at-home recommendations during flu outbreaks.

Re: Vaccines and Omicron mean Covid now less deadly than flu in England

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Post by notch656a »

terminatornet wrote: post #14
vinyl7 wrote: post #12

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Great way to destroy your immune system

an even greater way to destroy your immune system? dying from covid!

Or I don't die from covid, and my toddler has lifelong slight disadvantage in language acquisition due to hysteria.
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