@asmertgen thoughts on this research https://thecounter.org/lab-grown-cultivated-meat-cost-at-sca... ?
Great question. We had this discussion internally quite a lot. Since my co-founder comes from launching rockets let me use this analogy: 20 years ago Elon Musk was though to be crazy when he wanted to build reusable rockets. But now it works. It took a lot of smart minds, effort and money. But they did it. We believe it will be the same with cultivated meat. Completely changing a system, in our case food system, is a…
Launch HN: Micro Meat (YC S21) – Technology for scaling cultivated meat
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#122To those wondering why lab-grown meat instead of going vegan: People are driven by incentives. People like meat, so instead of asking them to stop eating meat, which most won't do, make it a better option that fits with whatever the asker's goals are. In this case, you'd want people to care about animals or decrease environmental effects, so the way to do that while also considering people's incentives of loving meat…
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#123I watched a program where they were using this method to build a heart and appeared to be reasonably successful, but it is pot luck hoping some cells stick.
I guess getting cells to stick is one of the problems not cracked yet, so I wonder how stem cells know when to stick to an organ. I cant help but wonder if the cell sensing and signalling still has some secrets to give up.
> by shielding the cells within the scaffold. Novel.
My only concern with lab grown meat is will it contain enough nutrition? We see supermarkets and farmers interested in growing meat as quickly as possible so it doesnt contain the same nutrition, arguably less nutrition, than organically grown food from the 70's. For example, bacon (pig meat) contains less pantothenic acid as it helps to marbleise the meat but the animal will end up with fatty liver, and fat around the organs instead of under the skin. This then feeds into us, so some of the health complaints humans see are a result of how the food is grown (vegetable or animal). Here in the UK I've seen a suggestion that if everyone went vegetarian, we could free up 80% of the farmland.
I also know that supplements like Histidine will reduce red meat consumption, because dark meats are a source of histadine the precursor for histamine which helps white blood cells move through tissue. So I wonder if some of these supplements will end up in the lab grown meat?
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#124Hello and congratulations on launching! 1) It sounds like the scaffold+medium+environment is meant to replace a vascular network. Have you considered growing a vascular system in/around the muscle tissue (if that's possible)? 2) Assuming you get to bulk samples, are there any plans to "exercise" the muscle tissue (e.g. with electric stimulation) to reach a desired tenderness/texture? 3) Where are you based?
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#125Re: Launch HN: Micro Meat (YC S21) – Technology for scaling cultivated meat
#126To those wondering why lab-grown meat instead of going vegan: People are driven by incentives. People like meat, so instead of asking them to stop eating meat, which most won't do, make it a better option that fits with whatever the asker's goals are. In this case, you'd want people to care about animals or decrease environmental effects, so the way to do that while also considering people's incentives of loving meat…
It’s even simpler than that. There are some people who simply don’t function as well when they don’t eat meat. “But I’m vegan and I do just fine, in fact it I feel better then when I was eating meat”. I don’t doubt you, but I also don’t doubt the ex-vegans who tried and tried, but just felt awful and tired until they reintroduced meat. Different people have different metabolisms, and some people just can’t properly d…
The irony being that I absolutely love veggies of all kinds, and would have no trouble eating vegetarian, if it weren't for the side effects on my health. I'd be thrilled to try lab meat!
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#127Re: Launch HN: Micro Meat (YC S21) – Technology for scaling cultivated meat
#128Will be down voted for this. But here are my unsubstantiated comment: If lab meat becomes equivalent in quality to animal meat the sum total energy will exceed the energy required to obtain animal meat. It's difficult to beat nature when energy efficiency is concerned.( same for for carbon capture). Also nature does it in the lest pollution manner that artificial processes will not be able to match. My argument is no…
First, there's no evolutionary pressure to minimize pollution, so I don't know why you'd assume that "nature does it in the lest pollution manner [sic] that artificial processes will not be able to match".
Secondly, even if nature is somehow more efficient than science can ever match for running an entire living creature, that's not what lab meat is doing. Almost everything an animal needs to do - think, feel, breathe, digest, move, maintain organs, and on and on and on - lab meat doesn't need to do. So potentially losses in efficiency for growing meat cells can be made up for by the fact that you're not doing any of the other things animals need to do besides growing meat cells.
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#130Well, those PhD guys don't even know that eating same cells all time would kill our species ? We need to assimilate different DNA from each plant, each animal, to keep evolving our own one and avoid diseases. It's basic and this is why this kind of stuff don't cross some borders. Focus on reducing meat consumption instead.