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AWS's us-east-1 region is experiencing issues

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Re: AWS's us-east-1 region is experiencing issues

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> What is the "cultish LP dance" here that is weeding good people out? The "culture fit" interview process focuses on leadership principles, so lots of questions like " tell me about a time when you went above and beyond for a customer". Being yourself will get you nowhere, you need to research the questions and the script that is expected of you. > What service does your team work on? I'm a partner-focused SA, so no…

There is nothing cultish about the way Amazon interviews. If you are a good engineer with a relevant background who can speak english you will have no problem passing these interviews. I'm not sure why you are framing it as cultish.

That does not match up with my own experience at all.

Maybe the service teams are less heavy on LPs due to not being customer-facing?

Re: AWS's us-east-1 region is experiencing issues

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Outside of the mega-fang industry, I’m wondering the same thing. The Great Resignation had to have taken a huge toll on regular enterprises. There are probably going to be some unlucky (or lucky, depending on how hardcore they are) people in the position of maintaining aging legacy systems and retrofitting them into the future. COBOL, for example, is becoming a lucrative language for people in the financial and insur…

>The Great Resignation had to have taken a huge toll on regular enterprises. The Great Resignation was people leaving jobs they didn't want (front of house/service industry/gig) for jobs they did want (career-track jobs) after those jobs resumed hiring again after the pandemic settled down. Labor force participation went up not down due to 'the great resignation.'

We were discussing attrition, not labor force participation.

Re: AWS's us-east-1 region is experiencing issues

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> What is the "cultish LP dance" here that is weeding good people out? The "culture fit" interview process focuses on leadership principles, so lots of questions like " tell me about a time when you went above and beyond for a customer". Being yourself will get you nowhere, you need to research the questions and the script that is expected of you. > What service does your team work on? I'm a partner-focused SA, so no…

I interviewed with AWS about a year ago. Knocked the programming/system design interviews out of the park, but it was clear the LP interviewer simply didn’t believe I was being truthful about the example I gave (included a period where my team had no direct manager, which is abnormal). He also had a programming question for me but we didn’t have time for him to explain it. No offer, recruiter emphasized that they wer…

Who would interview with a company again after this nonsense though? I would hope candidates view of said "cool off" period is that it is a permanent one. The arrogance of these recruiters is astonishing.

Re: AWS's us-east-1 region is experiencing issues

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I think this is a transient issue. When you're in growth mode you make a huge series of hacks to just keep things running and then when you leave.... well, it's a problem. But if the business is robust, and lives beyond you, what replaces your work is better documented, better tested, and maintainable. That's the dream. Obviously there are companies that sink between v1 and v2, but that's life. Fundamentally I think…

if us-east-1 is "in growth mode", what that we rely on can we possibly expect to ever reach maturity?

No what I'm saying is that AWS is transitioning out of early stage growth, and so they're seeing all the issues you see where the original people who hacked stuff together are moving on and you have to start really focusing on making things stable, but the beginning of that process is always everything getting unreliable.

Re: AWS's us-east-1 region is experiencing issues

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I interviewed with AWS about a year ago. Knocked the programming/system design interviews out of the park, but it was clear the LP interviewer simply didn’t believe I was being truthful about the example I gave (included a period where my team had no direct manager, which is abnormal). He also had a programming question for me but we didn’t have time for him to explain it. No offer, recruiter emphasized that they wer…

Who would interview with a company again after this nonsense though? I would hope candidates view of said "cool off" period is that it is a permanent one. The arrogance of these recruiters is astonishing.

It was unpleasant but at the end of the day it was just one guy.

What gets me is that every recruiter who reaches out (hundreds by now I estimate) wants me to complete their timed coding test to qualify to interview again.

I found Google’s interview process comparatively much more respectful (although more demanding), and have been happy working there instead.

Re: AWS's us-east-1 region is experiencing issues

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Similar story in smaller orgs, from what I’ve heard - people don’t even bother with the going-away stuff any more.

It seems like that is more of an artifact of the pandemic and everyone working remote. Are you going to hold a farewell zoom party? I don't think so.

> Are you going to hold a farewell zoom party?

I would, and have. Granted not with an entire org, but it’s still good form to take a few moments to say goodbye.

Re: AWS's us-east-1 region is experiencing issues

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Similar story in smaller orgs, from what I’ve heard - people don’t even bother with the going-away stuff any more.

It seems like that is more of an artifact of the pandemic and everyone working remote. Are you going to hold a farewell zoom party? I don't think so.

Decent people who respect each other as former/possibly future teammates can & do.

Re: AWS's us-east-1 region is experiencing issues

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It seems like that is more of an artifact of the pandemic and everyone working remote. Are you going to hold a farewell zoom party? I don't think so.

> Are you going to hold a farewell zoom party? I would, and have. Granted not with an entire org, but it’s still good form to take a few moments to say goodbye.

Yup, it's not that hard to be decent.

If we can have meeting after meeting for working groups, agile kayfabe, status reports, etc for hours recurring weekly.. we can spend 15min on the phone saying thanks, good luck, and see you again a handful of times per year when a teammate leaves.

Re: AWS's us-east-1 region is experiencing issues

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Who would interview with a company again after this nonsense though? I would hope candidates view of said "cool off" period is that it is a permanent one. The arrogance of these recruiters is astonishing.

It was unpleasant but at the end of the day it was just one guy. What gets me is that every recruiter who reaches out (hundreds by now I estimate) wants me to complete their timed coding test to qualify to interview again. I found Google’s interview process comparatively much more respectful (although more demanding), and have been happy working there instead.

Do you mean AWS recruiters are asking you to take timed coding tests? Or in general? This is a thing for people with experience? What value or skills do recruiters actually bring? It's a wonder anyone gets hired at all with these jokers as gate keepers. Good on you for getting a better gig. Congrats.
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