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Lootboxes in FIFA now allowed by highest Dutch court

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Re: Lootboxes in FIFA now allowed by highest Dutch court

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This makes me sad. I think loot boxes with RNG rewards are a disgusting practice. It's gambling that minors are allowed to do.

One of the things I respect Epic Games for is they didn't follow this profitable path for Fortnite. In Fortnite, you want the skin, you buy the skin. You don't buy a ton of boxes and hope to get lucky.

Gambling with an immediate result is bad. It's particularly bad for children. But it's also bad for adults (eg online slot machines).

Re: Lootboxes in FIFA now allowed by highest Dutch court

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post #3

This makes me sad. I think loot boxes with RNG rewards are a disgusting practice. It's gambling that minors are allowed to do. One of the things I respect Epic Games for is they didn't follow this profitable path for Fortnite. In Fortnite, you want the skin, you buy the skin. You don't buy a ton of boxes and hope to get lucky. Gambling with an immediate result is bad. It's particularly bad for children. But it's also…

Fortnite is its own evil. They only show an extremely small fraction of the items available each day, with no indication of whether they'll return, so that you feel you have to buy things now in case you never have the chance again.

Re: Lootboxes in FIFA now allowed by highest Dutch court

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I was really hoping that the pushback on videogame gambling by minors would gain more regulatory momentum, not less.

I think it's going to take longer to see regulation stick due to a lack of first hand knowledge of lootboxes by politicians and judges, who to be fair, are of a generation that just do not understand the subject matter.

Re: Lootboxes in FIFA now allowed by highest Dutch court

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post #6

I was really hoping that the pushback on videogame gambling by minors would gain more regulatory momentum, not less. I think it's going to take longer to see regulation stick due to a lack of first hand knowledge of lootboxes by politicians and judges, who to be fair, are of a generation that just do not understand the subject matter.

im sure they understand the lootboxes of cash they get here and there on a nudge nudge wink wink basis

Re: Lootboxes in FIFA now allowed by highest Dutch court

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This is so disheartening. I work as an admin in a school that serves all grades, and the impact that this stuff has on kids is very real. I've witnessed first-hand a grown in sort of a "gambling" culture amongst kids, as early as elementary school. While loads of us may have had fun experiences trading cards and whatnot, this all still happens with kids but with a much more overt monetary component.

Part of me, though, wonders if this is just me getting older and becoming one of those "grumps." It's painfully obvious that as a whole society is moving to becoming more and more accepting of things like this (for instance, the huge push towards gambling in organized sports in the US), that it has the feel of inevitability. My sense is this will be a net social negative, but perhaps experience will prove it to be not so bad.

Re: Lootboxes in FIFA now allowed by highest Dutch court

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post #3

This makes me sad. I think loot boxes with RNG rewards are a disgusting practice. It's gambling that minors are allowed to do. One of the things I respect Epic Games for is they didn't follow this profitable path for Fortnite. In Fortnite, you want the skin, you buy the skin. You don't buy a ton of boxes and hope to get lucky. Gambling with an immediate result is bad. It's particularly bad for children. But it's also…

Fortnite is its own evil. They only show an extremely small fraction of the items available each day, with no indication of whether they'll return, so that you feel you have to buy things now in case you never have the chance again.

Fear Of Missing Out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_of_missing_out

Yes agreed, Epic's behavior in Fortnite is just as, if not more, predatory and relies on FOMO which is a huge factor in peer pressure among young people. Epic is not deserving of respect but should be called out more.

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