How has TikTok not been mentioned yet?
China's state media buys Meta ads pushing Russia's line on war
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Re: China's state media buys Meta ads pushing Russia's line on war
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Is selling products or services not political propaganda in its own way?
“Visit Thailand” is both selling services and propaganda. “Russian war is Ok” is a different kind of propaganda. It’s easy to see the difference between the two and online ad platforms should be able to make a reasonable distinction in most cases.
No it couldn't make an easy distinction. Let's suppose someone sells stickers. A "Russian War Is Okay" sticker could be easily seen as propaganda. But expression often not direct. How about a simple white Z design?[0] Services and propaganda intertwine. Not that I'd like to defend those who profit from war. But content moderation is a really hard problem.
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> What's not to understand? Russia is doing the pre-production research of how China will need to protect their economy when they put their military in Taiwan. China will not get sanctioned like Russia has. The world's dependence on Chinese manufacturing is like Europe's dependence on Russian gas, times ten. Or, more precisely, it will get sanctioned like Russia has, but like the Russian sanctions, they will include…
I think it would take less sanctions to send Chinese to the streets, so China would be more likely to try not to get sanctioned. We see locally they vent fury over economic issues quite often despite much more locked down media and a generally better looking economy than Russia. People in China are fine with the government as long as the economy is good, not sure how they would react to the government getting sanctio…
Hard to say. Patriotism/national chauvinism is one hell of a drug, and one in copious supply in times of armed conflict.
Re: China's state media buys Meta ads pushing Russia's line on war
#214>Good WSJ article on Russia vs. China. In a nutshell, China miscalculated the situation. They will likely look to limit their bet (on Russia) for fear of becoming Russia 2.0 to the West. [1] The tweet is from Neil Cybart and WSJ. You may know him as one of the more accurate Apple analysts. And most people still to this day think either China miscalculated it, or China's official stance is somewhat unclear. ( Paul Gra…
> And as usual, Benedict Evans has much better take on the situation. Mostly likely because of his major in History.
Which is?
Re: China's state media buys Meta ads pushing Russia's line on war
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I don’t know about the ads, but here are their state media reports: They peddle Russia’s claim that US has bioweapons in Ukraine: https://www.newsweek.com/china-peddles-russias-claim-that-us... And here’s CGTN’s article on “biolabs” in Ukraine, citing Russia media outlets and officials: https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202203/1254330.shtml Edit: As pointed out by a commenter, the above article is from GlobalTimes, not…
https://twitter.com/raczylo/status/1501324063926534148 Edit: "The US has an interest in biolabs in Ukraine" - I feel like this is a pretty useless nit to pick. (Sorry for the twitter source. It's a video of Marco Rubio, a US senator, talking to Victoria Nuland) The US is basically warning that Russia plans to release stuff from these labs and blame the Ukrainians for it. Kindof the same thing they were supposedly doi…
Just piggybacking on your great comment here.
The U.S. also has biolabs in China, or funds them, or has enough involvement that it's equivalent to what they're doing in Ukraine so maybe Russia should invade China next using their own biolab justification.
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> China will not get sanctioned like Russia has Nobody thought Russia would get sanctioned like Russia has.
Well, I read your comment, I look around me, I see no item that is not "Made in China". There is no way China gets sanctioned for barely anything without years (decades ?) of re-industrialization of the west. Well, at some point, I even think that China could make the entire west civilization collapse just by stopping their exportation.
For consumer goods, sure. But much of that is not what makes up the entire west civilization, imho
Re: China's state media buys Meta ads pushing Russia's line on war
#217Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What's not to understand? Russia is doing the pre-production research of how China will need to protect their economy when they put their military in Taiwan. China will not get sanctioned like Russia has. The world's dependence on Chinese manufacturing is like Europe's dependence on Russian gas, times ten. Or, more precisely, it will get sanctioned like Russia has, but like the Russian sanctions, they will include…
My understanding is some manufacturing is already moving away from China. If China invades Taiwan, the West won't be able to sanction them as quickly and as intensely, but it can accelerate the move to take its business elsewhere... Which it will have to do, because most of the world's most advanced chips come from TSMC, and if that's controlled by China, it's just dangerous.
Agreed. Now that the world is riveted by Russia's mad rush to pariahhood, this is an insanely bad time for anyone to jump on Russia's bandwagon. Apparently China has yet to learn that by showing wanton disrespect now for the most basic of international civil rights, you terrify and alienate your customer base. Barbarism is very bad business, and will surely haunt both the actors and their cheerleaders for a looong time to come.
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#218What does FB gain by allowing traffic from CCP IP addresses when traffic to Chinese addresses is blocked?
Are we sure it is CCP IP address. CGTN might have established offices outside PRC and those might be the one publishing these.
Also, banning CGTN is not the way, just like banning RT wasn't. I can understand banning demonstrably false misinformation but that should be content specific, complete RT ban doesn't sit right with me.
Economist has published articles stating how Iraq war was justified or NYT with their WMD propoganda. RT was doing it at a massive scale but it doesn't seem right nonetheless.
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#219I had Uyghur propaganda popping regulary on youtube (western europe) so I guess big tech doesn't really care.
Not caring would be the default position of a company, no?
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#220Good. Lets hear all sides. Everyone should check out as many state propaganda around the world they can and not rely on just one state propaganda for "truth". All propaganda has innate biases and they all spin stories for their agenda. The easiest way to understand this is by looking at state propaganda around the world on a single topic like ukraine. Then you'll understand that truly, the truth is the first casualty…
>Lets hear all sides
There is no all sides. a big fat kid beating up a skinny kid when that skinny kid did NOTHING to the big fat kid.
where's all sides? when you punch someone first regardless of your reason. you lose all moral high ground. especially Russia's reason is absurd.
i don't understand why people believe there is any sides to this war.