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The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

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Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

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Wouldn't work in practice - no one is going to pass an opportunity to broadcast their political views to as many people as possible.

> no one is going to pass an opportunity to broadcast their political views I expect most people that held a job prior to social media (or-- really, holds a job in most industries except tech outside of a few cities) will happily tell you that people readily pass on such opportunities.

In the Canadian warehouse I worked in you had guys red faced bitching about Trudeau at least once a week.

This was also during the trade war, so these same guys were shit talking Trump and calling him a fucking retard too.

Good timez(?)

Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

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If there aren't many people who are interested in voting for either candidate, the easiest way to win is not to convince the other side, but to push people who weren't interested in voting, to vote. This is usually done through outrage tactics. As we see both republican and democrat go down in popularity overall, we can see that these tactics are being used more and more.

Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

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I tried using Twitter but it's kinda disorienting... Reddit is easier to follow. And doesn't have character limit so you can actually respond properly than just saying one liners. If talk is just a screaming match I'd rather just play apex legends, much more enjoyable... Also if there are 5673 people with same low effort flawed logic then kind of pointless to reply to one person.. it's better to do public announcement. Make a YouTube video, write a blog post, or maybe even rant on Reddit ...

Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

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Twitter is the fastest way for me to feel like I'm a completely worthless human being, especially in the tech sector. It overwhelmingly emphasizes the following, from my experience: 1. If you are not famous, you don't matter. 2. Front-end engineers are invariably the most important and skillful, and backend engineers really aren't valuable. 3. If you hold any position that's even accidentally politically incorrect, y…

> 3. If you hold any position that's even accidentally politically incorrect, you will be publicly shamed for it, and some people are quite relentless at bringing up tiny past mistakes. A friend got disinvited from speaking at an NLP convention, not because of something he said or did, but because his employer was tangentially related to national security contracts. Of course, the person that organized the dis-invite…

Wait a minute what kind of NLP you talking about here?

Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

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Something I've been learning is what i have come to think of as an antidote to narcissism (and the effects of narcissists); I'm in a much better place in my life then ever before, I'm happy, i view people closer to who they are then ever before... and I enjoy the journey. Simply, to achieve this; I've stopped looking for "friends" who reflect me, as they are useless and a waste of time and resource.

I already have me, I am myself, I don't need others to validate those things as they do it worse or for the wrong reasons, except for fundamental beliefs, an example of this is comparing fundamentals with music, because if we believe that "murder is wrong", and "don't steal" we can get along much better, avoid serious violations... with music on the flip side i don't care if you like something different, or play something different. If you are creating it I will listen, if you are listening to it on the radio I will plug my ears and we with both be happy.

These are two good examples as they demonstrate something I believe is the answer for a much happier way of life. Simply being, I am willing to hear something i don't like, because I choose how valuable it is. If you are an idiot I may tell you, if I think it will help you; if i don't think it will help, I won't say anything, and i will try my best to forget the conversation. Your words only matter because I allow it to matter to me; regardless of the actual implications of your words on reality. If you say something like; "the sky is red and you are a retard for disagreeing with me, I will hear no argument" (this is exaggerated for the point), how would I respond? I used to get offended, because "I'm not retarded, ur the idiot"; now I try to respond (and i'm far from perfect, getting better) with something along the lines of, "good conversation, I disagree, lol bye" and laugh about it later. It's not valuable to continue, and the worst thing that happened is I no longer respect them, if I ever did before. One less loser in my life, overall better outlook, less stress, nice.

Nothing you say or do will matter to anyone else but by those who respect you. Another thing, I don't respect you, you don't respect me. In the online world you have formed an opinion on me based on only my presence, if this is the first time you have read anything I have written, your whole view of me is being built only from the few paragraphs here. You don't respect me, you insult me when you do that; making me not who i am, but a simplified cartoon which is only my shadow. Of course I'm speaking generally, i have met a few exceptions and I know there are more out there who just don't assume who i am by a few hundred words, but it's gonna take a long time to find you.

I've went on too long about this, so I'll wrap it up. The only concession I make to actually caring is with people i have known for a long time, who have proven they really care, and those that really want to grow as people. I choose, at a detriment to myself usually, to value their words, no matter how hard it is to understand, or how much it hurts. Simply speaking, only give people the power they deserve, and some random on twitter doesn't matter (to you). :)

Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

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"Never pass up a chance to keep your mouth shut" Words my Dad taught me as I was growing up, but only really sank in the last 5 or so years ago.

I think there's a lesson to be learned from this wisdom, but putting yourself out there, making mistakes, and learning from those mistakes is invaluable.

I would rather reveal my ignorance or say the occasional dumb thing than remain bogged down by my own ignorance or stupidity because I adhere to some proverbs about silence that I read on the internet. Making those mistakes is how I grow.

Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

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>It seems like you're implying that doing so is somehow disingenuous or posturing and that I need to do more. Do I understand you correctly? I don't see anything in the OP's post to suggest that. I think their point is that being merely indifferent to (e.g.) gay people isn't actually a neutral stance in the context of a homophobic society. But you state in your post that you're not merely indifferent, so I don't thin…

If everyone get the way GP did, the issues would cease to exist. Not only is it at WORST neutral, it’s exactly what everyone SHOULD be doing.

Getting everyone to neutral won't fix society because it requires MORE than Neutrality to undo the past damage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiSiHRNQlQo

Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

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I tried being a Twitter user for a bit last year, mostly because a lot of engineers I admire use it to communicate about interesting topics and also their work. But after a while, I realized even they will pollute my feed with politically divisive topics, whether it be from them retweeting something, or liking a tweet, or even entering into the fray themselves -- Twitter will find a way to get me to see it. For a whi…

One of my pet theories for why social media is such a cesspool is that it exposes us to the whole of someone else. If I play boardgames with Sue, that's enough. We meet, enjoy a beer and play some Catan and go our separate ways. That's a fine relationship. If I follow Sue on social media, now I know her politics, religion, sex life, drug usage, opinions on every little thing.. and frankly, I don't care or want to. I'…

>One of my pet theories for why social media is such a cesspool is that it exposes us to the whole of someone else.

Yes! A thousand times yes! You are speaking out of my heart with that comment. That's what most current social networks get wrong. Just because I know someone, or met someone IRL and am now connected on the platform, I do not want to always know what they are up to. It's a pull not a push!

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