Does the lazy loading combined with the torrent mean that you can lose individual rows if nobody has accessed them recently?
Static torrent website with peer-to-peer queries over BitTorrent on 2M records
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#12Getting no results and error: "WebRTC: ICE failed, add a TURN server and see about:webrtc for more details" in Firefox latest.
WebRTC errors can be caused by being behind a double NAT, using a VPN or proxy, being in privacy browsing mode, or a privacy extension.
Barring all that, non-default browser settings (i.e. disabling WebRTC or TURN).
Re: Static torrent website with peer-to-peer queries over BitTorrent on 2M records
#13It would be interesting to understand why ipfs was so slow in prior experiments.
My guess is that you don't have much control over which chunks of data you can request over IPFS compared to BitTorrent.
If I’m reading this correctly, file blocks in ipfs are individually addressable
https://docs.ipfs.io/concepts/how-ipfs-works/#directed-acycl...
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#14Yup. Calling it. This is the future, may not seem like it to everyone but this is a part of actually new and extremely useful, passively scalable technology. Imagine (good) unkillable zombie databases- so long as the name of a piece of data is known (its hash).. someone, somewhere, might make it possible for you to answer your query, without even needing to setup a server setup.. that’s _it_! Not to mention it might…
So this is the true Web3 then?
No. This thing puts the user first (forgive my corpspeak): it gives us a powerful tool for free. Web3, on the other hand, puts the advertisers first. If this was web3, it would have some useless microtransactions attached to it. I bet that someone behind web3 is thinking hard right now how to stop this torrent thing.
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#15Yup. Calling it. This is the future, may not seem like it to everyone but this is a part of actually new and extremely useful, passively scalable technology. Imagine (good) unkillable zombie databases- so long as the name of a piece of data is known (its hash).. someone, somewhere, might make it possible for you to answer your query, without even needing to setup a server setup.. that’s _it_! Not to mention it might…
So this is the true Web3 then?
It is what people have been referring to as "Web3", yes: https://ipfs.io/#how
Re: Static torrent website with peer-to-peer queries over BitTorrent on 2M records
#16Seems interesting. Not sure I see it taking off.
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#17Yup. Calling it. This is the future, may not seem like it to everyone but this is a part of actually new and extremely useful, passively scalable technology. Imagine (good) unkillable zombie databases- so long as the name of a piece of data is known (its hash).. someone, somewhere, might make it possible for you to answer your query, without even needing to setup a server setup.. that’s _it_! Not to mention it might…
Unfortunately this is still killable. Someone needs to periodically publish up to date databases using some outside protocol. Also if you participate in the public DHT, then your participation is public and can have consequences on your real-life legal entity.
If you want to use TOR and onion sites, I don't think this really adds anything to those.
I think this just helps you optionaly crowdsource bandwidth.
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#18Heads up that some of the search results are probably NSFW, so it might be a better one to check out at home.
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#19Yup. Calling it. This is the future, may not seem like it to everyone but this is a part of actually new and extremely useful, passively scalable technology. Imagine (good) unkillable zombie databases- so long as the name of a piece of data is known (its hash).. someone, somewhere, might make it possible for you to answer your query, without even needing to setup a server setup.. that’s _it_! Not to mention it might…
Isn't that what Perfect Dark, Winny, Share, and other peer to peer sharing systems already are? Why is this more compelling than those?
Re: Static torrent website with peer-to-peer queries over BitTorrent on 2M records
#20Yup. Calling it. This is the future, may not seem like it to everyone but this is a part of actually new and extremely useful, passively scalable technology. Imagine (good) unkillable zombie databases- so long as the name of a piece of data is known (its hash).. someone, somewhere, might make it possible for you to answer your query, without even needing to setup a server setup.. that’s _it_! Not to mention it might…
> so long as the name of a piece of data is known (its hash)
But that's also the fatal flaw. It's pretty definitionally true of stuff on the web that the person who owns / controls it wants to be able to change / update it. That isn't really supported at all at present for this distribution method, and it's hard to see how it could be in the future without introducing a single choke point.
Case in point: the vast majority of torrent traffic is for new torrents, because people want to download the stuff that's just been released, not the stuff that they either already have or could have had months ago. You lose 100% of this traffic with this "p2psearch" method, because the database can't be updated. Or if it can be updated (stick it on a traditional website for people to mirror), you rely on everyone updating to the newest version of the database.
It's also incredibly slow compared to traditional sites. It took longer than it took me to type this comment to see a single result for the popular title I tried to search for.