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Post by duxup »

colinmhayes wrote: post #210
duxup wrote: post #55

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I once worked for a company where several groups were VERY vocal about their complaints about each other. It seemed like bitching about the other team(s) was part of the job. Lots of walls built here and there between teams. I kept quiet. I decided bitching was too tiresome / nobody was getting anything done, nobody was getting better by having complainants flung at them. After I established relationships with variou…

> right and wrong (well outside real moral issues) Even moral issues don't have objective right and wrong. The idea that there are base moral facts is ridiculous, and without fully understanding each others priors arguments about ethics are rarely productive.

Oh yeah moral issues are within a context and so on.

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Post by x86_64Ubuntu »

Ekaros wrote: post #261
vlunkr wrote: post #245

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I don't know what your political leanings are, but do you realize this is the position of the people who stormed the capitol building?

Ever wondered how that was even possible? Like how bad must the security be for bunch of unarmed random civilians to enter and have access to rather important location? Almost seems like manufactured. Or lot of people should be fired for incompetence...

It happened because much of the establishment, especially in policing, were sympathetic to the goals of the 1/6 attackers. Everyone know about "Stop The Steal" in December when it was being mentioned frequently in places like Facebook. When we compare how BLM and Native pipeline protests are dealt with by the police, it's clear that they were essentially acting as accomplices.

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Post by gameman144 »

rNULLED wrote: post #359
gameman144 wrote: post #314

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Is this sarcasm? If not, I'd love to hear the rationale behind this, as to me this seems far less objectionable than lots of things which happen on mainstream Twitter.

Consider that so many people do not care to preserve the environments of online public spaces. While the pollution of digital environments with semiotic trash is less tangible and persistent than the beer cans, cigarette butts, and used needles on the streets of our cities, can you really defend its production? What kinds of cultures, mindsets, and personalities would this breed? Yes, there are far worse things. But…

One man's semiotic trash is another man's humorous treasure.

Note that I'm not saying that I'm a fan of low-quality posts like this, just that I feel that the lion's share of Twitter is low-quality posts, so it seems odd to single out a copy-pasta meme as being unworthy while allowing... well, the rest of Twitter.

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Post by watwut »

cylinder714 wrote: post #235
jameskilton wrote: post #12

"Never pass up a chance to keep your mouth shut" Words my Dad taught me as I was growing up, but only really sank in the last 5 or so years ago.

"Silence is a friend who will never betray you." —A Russian (or Italian) saying (works either way, as it turns out)

That also means, don't protest. It is safer. It means that especially in the context of Russian history and present.

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Post by Clubber »

ar_lan wrote: post #233

Twitter is the fastest way for me to feel like I'm a completely worthless human being, especially in the tech sector. It overwhelmingly emphasizes the following, from my experience: 1. If you are not famous, you don't matter. 2. Front-end engineers are invariably the most important and skillful, and backend engineers really aren't valuable. 3. If you hold any position that's even accidentally politically incorrect, y…

>2. Front-end engineers are invariably the most important and skillful, and backend engineers really aren't valuable.

As mainly a back end developer, I find this statement the opposite of reality. :) Good thing I don't post on Twitter.

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Post by fleddr »

onion2k wrote: post #255
toastercat wrote: post #71

I tried being a Twitter user for a bit last year, mostly because a lot of engineers I admire use it to communicate about interesting topics and also their work. But after a while, I realized even they will pollute my feed with politically divisive topics, whether it be from them retweeting something, or liking a tweet, or even entering into the fray themselves -- Twitter will find a way to get me to see it. For a whi…

I know a lot of folks in my field side by the stance that everything is political, even code. Twitter isn't code. Why would you expect someone to limit what they publish to code topics just because you want to limit what you read to just code things? Their Twitter account is their domain. There's no reason why someone shouldn't tweet about code and other stuff if they want to. I honestly have no idea why people think…

Nobody said that people can't tweet about any and all aspects of their lives. The point was that some followers may only be interested in one particular part. This would dramatically cut the noise from Twitter, as well as its divisiveness and general unpleasantness.

You can still tweet whatever you want, but Twitter would be more usable for many people if you could cherry pick the signal and get rid of the noise.

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Post by Dylan16807 »

vorpalhex wrote: post #303
Pxtl wrote: post #265

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Texas just unveiled a law that proposes putting parents who support their children's gender transition in jail for child abuse. That means one side thinks the other side is a child abuser, and the other side thinks that bigots are going to throw them in prison for being a supportive parent. This is not something you can be "polite" about.

1. It was an order, not a law 2. It was a clarification of existing rules 3. It does not make "supporting your child's gender transition" a jailable offense. The order says subjecting a child to invasive medical procedure can be abuse, and that doctors and teachers have a legal requirement to report abuse. Here is the order for your reading pleasure: https://gov.texas.gov/news/post/governor-abbott-directs-dfps...

"As OAG Opinion No. KP-0401 makes clear, it is already against the law to subject Texas children to a wide variety of elective procedures for gender transitioning, including reassignment surgeries that can cause sterilization, mastectomies, removals of otherwise healthy body parts, and administration of puberty-blocking drugs or supraphysiologic doses of testosterone or estrogen."

Where "subject" appears to be the most general form possible, as far as I can tell from context.

Even puberty blockers are on this list! You're not supporting a gender transition if you can't touch hormones at all.

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Post by rcoveson »

wpietri wrote: post #247
toastercat wrote: post #71

I tried being a Twitter user for a bit last year, mostly because a lot of engineers I admire use it to communicate about interesting topics and also their work. But after a while, I realized even they will pollute my feed with politically divisive topics, whether it be from them retweeting something, or liking a tweet, or even entering into the fray themselves -- Twitter will find a way to get me to see it. For a whi…

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> Some people get to ignore "politics"...

No, they don't, because they invite this exact reply whenever they try to do so.

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Post by ratww »

Ansil849 wrote: post #346
vorpalhex wrote: post #146

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One of my pet theories for why social media is such a cesspool is that it exposes us to the whole of someone else. If I play boardgames with Sue, that's enough. We meet, enjoy a beer and play some Catan and go our separate ways. That's a fine relationship. If I follow Sue on social media, now I know her politics, religion, sex life, drug usage, opinions on every little thing.. and frankly, I don't care or want to. I'…

> If I play boardgames with Sue, that's enough. We meet, enjoy a beer and play some Catan and go our separate ways. That's a fine relationship. > If I follow Sue on social media, now I know her politics, religion, sex life, drug usage, opinions on every little thing.. and frankly, I don't care or want to. I'm happy just playing some Catan once in a while. > Historically you didn't need to know everything about everyo…

I had noticed the name change myself, but never consider it was politically motivated until you brought it up (especially considering mine is called "Catan: Trade Build Settle"). You're Sue in this case.

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Post by d1sxeyes »

math_denial wrote: post #341
d1sxeyes wrote: post #234

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Whenever one group is deciding on what rights another group has, it seems inevitable that civility and friendliness will at some point get left behind.

Should tha baker have the right to refuse baking a gay wedding cake or some group has the power to decide what rights another group has? As a gay man the LGBT groups keep declining in the quality of their fights and, having survived their own usefulness, they invent fights that inevitably clash with others liberties and belief. No, I do need that cake, there are other bakeries.

Should a baker have the right to refuse to bake cakes in case it's an interracial couple?
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