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Re: Apple M1 Ultra

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Apple's ARM chips can process a metric ton of ops per cycle due to the architecture of the chip: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25257932

But the answer to the question is still "no".

Doesn't have to though. A Threadripper 3990X uses barrels of electricity, generates plenty of heat, comes with no GPU, has worse single-threaded performance, and still costs $4000 by itself without any of the parts needed to make it actually work.

Re: Apple M1 Ultra

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The power leveling in this chip's naming scheme can rival Dragon Ball Z.

I wish HN was like this more often

I really hope it won't. Let's cherish the high quality comments of HN. Once this comment section becomes a karma-fed race to the bottom driven by who can make the most memeable jokes, it will never recover. Case in point: Reddit.

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How does Apple manage to blow every other computing OEM out of the water? What's in the secret sauce of their company? Is it great leadership? Top tier engineering talent? Lots of money? I simply don't understand.

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Apple have some serious chip design abilities. Imagine if they entered the server market, with this architecture it could be very successful.

They tried that before and flopped. The server market is different. Companies buy servers from the low bidder. Apple has never really played in that market.

This is pretty true. While people who buy racks consider vertical improvements they tend to think laterally and how easy is it to expand (aka how cheap is the +1 server)

Re: Apple M1 Ultra

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At what point Apple will put those chips in their servers or sell server chips? It only makes sense for them to take this architecture to the cloud deployments

As more developers move to ARM architecture by buying Macbooks (I did it last year the first time in my life), ARM cloud will grow very fast, and Apple needs growth, so they can't afford not to do it in a few years (probably with M2 architecture they are already thinking of it). Regarding the exact timeline: I don't know :)

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Not really. Thanks to the GPU interconnect NVLINK we have system 320GB. https://www.deltacomputer.com/nvidia-dgx-a100-320gb-3ys-edu.... There are even some with 640GB. This is at a different price point though.

640GB should be enough for anyone.

Bill said it 40 years ago and here we are with 2 orders of prefix more of memory. I wonder if in next 40 years we'll get to 640 peta bytes

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Does it mine bitcoin well?

Not Bitcoin but Ethereum https://9to5mac.com/2021/11/10/m1-pro-macbook-pro-cryptocurr... M1 Pro -> 5.8 MH/s, with a 17w draw, means $12.82 a month profit. I don't imagine the M1 Ultra is too much better, maybe 20 MH/s at absolute most, but we'll see. It definitely won't be as economical as 3070 or 3080 FE cards at current profitability levels.

& $.10 per KwH, many residences are often higher but professional operations are closer to $.03 per KwH or sometimes even zero or negative

also note that mining calculator they used assumes 2 Ether per block paid to miners

In Ethereum it can be much much higher because people pay to use that blockchain. Mining can be insanely profitable and I’m not aware of any calculator that shows it. Everyone is operating on bad data. A cursory look right now shows latest blocks having 2.52 Ether in them, which is 26% greater yield.

Block 14348267 a few minutes ago had 4.83 Ether, 140% greater yield

There have been prolonged periods of time, weeks and months, where block rewards were 6-9 Ether.

Miners were raking it all in while the calculators said “2 Ether”

All this to say it could probably make $20-30 a month.

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But the answer to the question is still "no".

Doesn't have to though. A Threadripper 3990X uses barrels of electricity, generates plenty of heat, comes with no GPU, has worse single-threaded performance, and still costs $4000 by itself without any of the parts needed to make it actually work.

It's a fantastic chip but that wasn't the question. I love my M1 Max and I love my Threadripper workstation, each has their own strengths and that's alright.

Re: Apple M1 Ultra

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80% of the desktop market and 100% of cloud deployments won't care.

I dunno, I think cloud is starting to think more and more about power consumption of the chips used, where Apple Silicon blows the competition out of the water.

Let us know when Apple starts a cloud business.
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