Looks like all the people saying "just start fusing those M1 CPU's into bigger ones" were right, that's basically what they did here (fused two M1 Max'es together). And since the presenter mentioned the Mac Pro would come on another day, I wonder if they'll just do 4x M1 Max for that.
Apple M1 Ultra
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Re: Apple M1 Ultra
#142Haha, bloody hell, what a monster of a chip. I find my M1 Max already remarkably fast. The change is so huge. It's like in the old days when you'd get a new computer and it felt like it could do things before you could think of doing them. But surely the GPU things can't be real? The GPU in the M1 Ultra beats the top-of-the-line Nvidia? That's nuts.
Based on Anandtech benchmarks the M1 Max GPU is basically on par with a mobile 3080, which a quick search tells me is about 60% as fast as a desktop 3080. Not unreasonable to believe 2 of them combined will outperform a 3090- with nearly 128 GB of VRAM to boot. Even more incredible Anandtech reports the M1 max GPU block maxing at 43W in their testing. So a 90W GPU in the M1 Ultra is trading blows with a 350+ watt 309…
In borderlands it got 24 FPS while the 3080 got 52 FPS. How is that on par?
Re: Apple M1 Ultra
#143Haha, bloody hell, what a monster of a chip. I find my M1 Max already remarkably fast. The change is so huge. It's like in the old days when you'd get a new computer and it felt like it could do things before you could think of doing them. But surely the GPU things can't be real? The GPU in the M1 Ultra beats the top-of-the-line Nvidia? That's nuts.
> The GPU in the M1 Ultra beats the top-of-the-line Nvidia? That's nuts. We don't know yet. Apple is benchmarking against Workstation graphics cards "production 2.5GHz 28-core Intel Xeon W-based Mac Pro systems with 384GB of RAM and AMD Radeon Pro W6900X graphics with 32GB of GDDR6"
From the linked article. Apple is comparing against RTX 3090.
Re: Apple M1 Ultra
#144Looks like all the people saying "just start fusing those M1 CPU's into bigger ones" were right, that's basically what they did here (fused two M1 Max'es together). And since the presenter mentioned the Mac Pro would come on another day, I wonder if they'll just do 4x M1 Max for that.
>I wonder if they'll just do 4x M1 Max for that. They'll be running out of names for that thing. M1 Ultra II would be lame, so M1 Extreme? M1 Steve?
Re: Apple M1 Ultra
#145Didn't AMD do something similar with putting 2 CPU chips together with cache in-between? What's the difference here in packaging technology? (maybe there is no shared cache here)
Intels upcomming Saphire Rapid server CPUs are extremly similar, with wide connections between two close dies. Crossectional bandwith is in the same order of magnitude there.
Re: Apple M1 Ultra
#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
PC user don't pay 4k for a computer, on PC you can get 2x the speed for 2x less the price.
Link me to the $2K computer that's twice as fast as the M1 Ultra. Take all the time you need.
Check your replies in 10 years and I'll be able to list a dozen ;P
But sarcasm aside yeah this chip looks insane.
Re: Apple M1 Ultra
#147The power leveling in this chip's naming scheme can rival Dragon Ball Z.
Re: Apple M1 Ultra
#148Would be interesting to get more info on the neural engine. On one hand, I find it fascinating that major manufacturers are now putting neural architectures into mainstream hardware. On the other hand I wonder what exactly it can do. To what degree are you tied into a specific neural architecture (eg recurrent vs convolutional), what APIs are available for training it, if it's even meant to be used that way (not just…
Re: Apple M1 Ultra
#149Looks like all the people saying "just start fusing those M1 CPU's into bigger ones" were right, that's basically what they did here (fused two M1 Max'es together). And since the presenter mentioned the Mac Pro would come on another day, I wonder if they'll just do 4x M1 Max for that.
>I wonder if they'll just do 4x M1 Max for that. They'll be running out of names for that thing. M1 Ultra II would be lame, so M1 Extreme? M1 Steve?
Re: Apple M1 Ultra
#150Is it actually more powerful than a top of the line threadripper[0] or is that not a "personal computer" CPU by this definition? I feel like 64 cores would beat 20 on some workloads even if the 20 were way faster in single core performance. [0] https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-threadripper-3...
But you know, I'm still happy to double my current build perf in a small box I can stick in my closet. Ordered one :-)