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The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

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Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

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post #27

"Never pass up a chance to keep your mouth shut" Words my Dad taught me as I was growing up, but only really sank in the last 5 or so years ago.

Similar quote by Mark Twain > It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.

This seems like a riff on Proverbs: "Even fools are thought wise if they keep silent, and discerning if they hold their tongues."

Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

#152

I don't engage on Twitter out of fear. I sometimes see posts that I like and want to retweet but I don't because it means I'm endorsing everything the author has ever said or ever will say. It's not worth the risk. People in my demographic face significant exposure to "cancelling" or ambushing for wrongthink. So it's best for me to avoid it entirely.

I post publicly on forums with my real name and don’t endorse everything I have said. Just evict such absolutist moral nonsense people from your life and don’t allow them to control you. When you see them do it to others, block them. It’s exactly the same thing as when it was a certain sort of church people controlling much of society with fear of “canceling” which was just done by different people with different mea…

I think you're failing to account for the specifically viral nature of Twitter. Even a forum like reddit is a relatively isolated space for opprobrium by comparison.

Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

#153
post #36

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While I did not vote for Donald Trump in 2016 or 2020, I AM a political independent who doesn't always vote for the Democratic candidate, either. And this notion that roughly 50% of voters are quasi hate criminals is abhorrent. It's always, "Oh, I suppose it's okay if you vote for the wrong party, as long as your candidate is no actual threat to my own ideology. But is just going too far." Except that partisans have…

Comments like this remind me of the political speech scene in "Around the World in 80 Days." America has been extremely partisan pretty much forever.

Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

#154
post #27

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Similar quote by Mark Twain > It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.

I'm pretty sure that quote is an insult and not good faith advise.

Heh, I certainly didn't mean to insult anyone...I've always thought it was advice, though I realize that I could easily be wrong on that.

Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

#155

I don't engage on Twitter out of fear. I sometimes see posts that I like and want to retweet but I don't because it means I'm endorsing everything the author has ever said or ever will say. It's not worth the risk. People in my demographic face significant exposure to "cancelling" or ambushing for wrongthink. So it's best for me to avoid it entirely.

Unless u have a lot of followers, there is a 99.9% chance no one will even see your tweet. Almost all twitter engagement is just bot engagement. there are entire industries devoted to getting social media posts seen by humans. it isn't easy.

Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

#156
post #33

Yea, I don't tweet. I have a twitter but don't see any point to tweet anything. That also means I have 0 followers. Made like 3 comments max. I don't really think about twitter as a social network. For me it's more like complete shitfest which is sometimes informative and/or funny.

I've tried to curate my activity, followings and topics to have a nicer experience. Like Google News, the curation works well, but slowly degrades in a few weeks until I'm seeing thing I'm not interested in, but their algorithms say people tend to engage with (mostly sports, celebrities, politics).

Twitter is specially annoying because it constantly probes you, be it with irrelevant posts to see if you like them, and asking you to confirm what topics you like or dislike. At least it includes a disclaimer when it's doing that.

Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

#157

I don't engage on Twitter out of fear. I sometimes see posts that I like and want to retweet but I don't because it means I'm endorsing everything the author has ever said or ever will say. It's not worth the risk. People in my demographic face significant exposure to "cancelling" or ambushing for wrongthink. So it's best for me to avoid it entirely.

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Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

#158

The most active social media users are usually people lacking in real life. Think about it, if you have a great job, a great partner and a great life, are you on Twitter arguing 20 to 30 hours a week. The type of person to argue with strangers all day has none of the above. It's also a matter of recognizing how insignificant we all are. No one cares what I think. Hopefully no one ever will. I do want to create games…

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Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

#159
post #40

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I would even say viewpoint of not the vocal minority. That is even near majority viewpoint, but if it is one not popular on twitter it is risky...

> but if it is one not popular on twitter it is risky... Right now or at any point in the future. People have been canceled for things they said many years and opinion changes ago.

That’s the minefield of posting online. People measure your comments from 20 years ago with today’s sensitivity yardstick. I know I made wisecrack jokes decades ago that would get me fired today. Who knows whether some innocuous thing you say today will be horrendously taboo 20 years from now?

Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

#160
so much salt in the comments. why risk putting yourself in the world? why risk opening your mouth? i dunno, why do you leave your house? a lot of you probably dont really have to.

do you not want to engage in the world? are you not curious about other people, interested in heearing them think? does having direct access to incredibly high grade people not excite you for some reason? do you not want to grow and get better, do you value being safe & secure so much as to pass up exchanging & interacting with so many? where else do you go to engage in cereberal, vast conversations? do you have world class thinkers, developers, journalists & researchers that you pow-wow with regularly? are you entirely uninterested in seeing some of their lives, participating together with them?

getting to join the global consciousness has been an incredible privilege. having a place for my thoughts in public, being open to reflection, getting to share & hear others open streams of communication, getting to engage in all manners of debate & discovery... this is 100% the cyberspace i signed up for. when twitter comes up as a topic tbis grousing & moaning about it, how everything that happens there is all shit &, from only bad edgy people... do you not look in the mirror when you cast such bitter hateful negative accusations at all? do you not see yourself enacting the bad acts you decry? this is such enormous slanted bias, rules out, out of hand, the possibility of positive use & engagement.

is anyone at all interested in the absurdly high value, in the incredible all connectedness, in the ability to throw wide your doors of perception here? this moaning & whining about this incredible global public shared hypermedium, this Fear Uncertainty & Doubt about putting yourself into the world, none of it makes sense to me. opt in, go online, share, grow!

as for thr topic at hand, well. i do think a lot of people, frankly, dont have much to contribute. honing a sense of insight & perspective & exploration, or engaging deeply in some worldly endeavor; these are not totally common attributes, and you need something to bother to be tweeting about, something that has value. im not surprised so many opt for quiet. i want to think of how to make valuable so many's participation, how to refine & grow intellects in this online social program, but i havent come.up with a lot of strong ideas for it.

and sure here's definitely plenty of pointless blathering about, from people who would do better to go offline & become someone first, absolutely. personally i stayed in generally smaller circles where i was not as subject to the endless peanut gallery, and was able to use the tool effectively to understand who was adjacent to my circles & interesting & who was wasting everyonecs time. part of the whole experience of twitter is establishing better internal filters, getting quick & fast at finding value, honing in on the interesting, the gems, the things with hooks or shininess, amid a lot of kind of ambient/experiential bits of background information about your contaxts, a connectivity maybe not valuable very often but which does kind of stitch us a bit closer to those we come to regard as in our circles.

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