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Here I thought the word "whataboutism" could not be possibly be more overused. You realize that drawing parallels in a discussion is not whataboutism?
Lead exposure in last century shrunk IQ scores of half of Americans: study
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Re: Lead exposure in last century shrunk IQ scores of half of Americans: study
#302Black children had an adjusted 0.73 to 1.41 µg/dL more blood Pb (p https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7084658/
> With whites as the reference group, the odds of consuming soda was 3.1 times higher for U.S.-born blacks (95% CI 2.6–3.7), 2.4 times higher for Puerto Ricans (95% CI 1.9–3.0), and 2.9 times higher for Mexican/Mexican-Americans (95% CI 2.0–4.1). Those living in households with income less than 200% of the federal poverty level were more likely (odds ratio [OR] = 1.7, 95% CI 1.4–2.1) to be frequent soda consumers than those in households earning 600% or more of the poverty level.
[0] https://www.consumerreports.org/food-safety/arsenic-and-lead...
Re: Lead exposure in last century shrunk IQ scores of half of Americans: study
#303https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Needleman
'The Removal of Lead from Gasoline: Historical and Personal Reflections'
https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.54...
'Lead, IQ and Social Class'
https://academic.oup.com/ije/article-abstract/18/1/180/61682...
Re: Lead exposure in last century shrunk IQ scores of half of Americans: study
#304Earlier quoted context omitted.
Marijuana needs to be reclassified off of Schedule I Status in the USA, so it can be more thoroughly studied. Schedule I category shouldn't include recreational drugs like marijuana, which has no overdose possibility and has limited withdrawal side-effects. This wrong classification, going back to ignorant viewpoints of the early-mid 1900's, has heavily limited our scientific understanding of marijuana's effects on h…
This much is clear. Scheduling MJ is extremely unwise. But I would also extend this to everything in the psychedelic / hallucinogenic category. They do no psychological harm and an increasing body of evidence indicates that they, in all likelihood, do a significant amount of mental good for responsible users. An acute example of this is a psychedelic called “DMT”. This psychedelic is nearly everywhere in nature, incl…
Re: Lead exposure in last century shrunk IQ scores of half of Americans: study
#305Earlier quoted context omitted.
This much is clear. Scheduling MJ is extremely unwise. But I would also extend this to everything in the psychedelic / hallucinogenic category. They do no psychological harm and an increasing body of evidence indicates that they, in all likelihood, do a significant amount of mental good for responsible users. An acute example of this is a psychedelic called “DMT”. This psychedelic is nearly everywhere in nature, incl…
Saying they do no psychological harm is quite am extreme statement and is just blatantly untrue. I tend to agree that these drugs should be dicriminalized, but you're doing the exact same thing thats been done with marijuana where the benefits of the drug are praised while the negatives are ignored.
Edit: cannot edit any longer. While I do not think they do cause psychological harm in the long term (I think they force confrontation with buried psychological issues in order to transcend them), they most certainly can cause short term psychological distress and issues for people unprepared, approaching with the wrong mindset, or using in an otherwise problematic set or setting.
Re: Lead exposure in last century shrunk IQ scores of half of Americans: study
#306Earlier quoted context omitted.
> This wrong classification, going back to ignorant viewpoints of the early-mid 1900's It "goes back" to Nixon needing a tool to criminalize the anti-war and racial justice movement. https://www.cnn.com/2016/03/23/politics/john-ehrlichman-rich... By the time Nixon came out with that policy, multiple commissions around the world had concluded that pot was largely harmless and should be decriminalized. People in his ow…
Okay so explain all the other countries with harsh drug laws that don’t have Nixon or minorities to oppress? Japan, Singapore, Sweden, etc.
My explanation would be that the US drug war was aggressively international.
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The IQ should be defined for the human race, in a time independent way, not for a specific nation or group. This allows us to make comparisons between different times, between different societies, etc. Otherwise, if the IQ is redefined to always follow the current mean, it can only be used to classify people between smarter than average and "dumber" than average, which is not so useful.
I'd imagine that it is nearly impossible to control for time with tests like IQ.
Also of interest might be: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect
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#308Earlier quoted context omitted.
there's this thing about the modern internet era which makes it possible to find a study to debunk (or support) pretty much any idea/theory you want. specially in the midst of an information/propaganda war all I'm trying to say is that I have decided not to think in the way you just did e.g. "where's that study which supports what I already believe?". It doesn't seem like a good tactic anymore
This is nothing new, it's a defect of humanity that has existed forever. It's also a problem that has been solved through the scientific method and peer review. It goes against our nature, so it's a skill that needs to be learned and practiced. This means that the average person isn't going to have those skills, and even people with those skills aren't all going to be experts. What is new is that the internet is lead…
To add, playing a paper like a trading card is essentially an appeal to authority[1].
Readers, you have to build mental a model and use causal mechanism and research studies as evidence, not proof. Accept the models which are stronger than the ones you have, even if they make you uncomfortable or conflict with your preconceived notions. Its ok to flip between conclusions as new evidence presents itself.
Re: Lead exposure in last century shrunk IQ scores of half of Americans: study
#309Black children had an adjusted 0.73 to 1.41 µg/dL more blood Pb (p https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7084658/
The highest blood lead levels are seen in children living in denser population areas at or below poverty thresholds. Homes in these largely urban, low-income areas are disproportionately built before 1978 and subject inhabiting children to a significantly higher lead exposure risk. In 2014, it was estimated that 90 percent of all DC homes were built before 1978.
Despite Baltimore leading the charge to inform the public concerning the risks of environmental exposure to lead by banning lead-based paint (but not plumbing or other construction products) in 1951 following a clinical study from Johns Hopkins University, many Baltimoreans, primarily Black, continue to face excessive exposure to lead. The US would not follow Baltimore's example and ban lead-based paint until 1978, because lead lobbyists continued to disrupt regulation efforts.
Lead remediation is an expensive process and even with programs that help or completely cover the costs, many people may not be aware of the programs to take advantage of them.
You can start to see why the problem disproportionately impacts the Black population.
Re: Lead exposure in last century shrunk IQ scores of half of Americans: study
#310Thomas Midgley Jr can be thanked for this. He also played a role in developing CFCs (Freon). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Midgley_Jr .
(He also came to a famously ironic end, strangling in a rope contraption of his own design.)