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Lead exposure in last century shrunk IQ scores of half of Americans: study

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Re: Lead exposure in last century shrunk IQ scores of half of Americans: study

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Not a huge problem when we die from diabetes or heart disease first.

Something being bad for your lungs is presumably going to be very bad for your heart.

Marshmallow leaf is often used as an alternative for those seeking to quit tobacco, and does have known health benefits:

https://www.real-leaf.com/blogs/realleaf-blog/smoking-marshm...

Although certainly any combusted plant will produce tar, and this is well known to cause pulmonary issues which will indeed place more stress upon the heart.

Re: Lead exposure in last century shrunk IQ scores of half of Americans: study

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Thanks for taking the hit from the "HN isn't about politics" crowd, this is something that needs to be said again and again.

Right wing conservatives and their followers - aka Republicans - are the number one threat facing the world today, hands down. Beyond their abhorrent legislative agenda based on their shared hatred for various parts of society, their complete disconnection from reality and traitorous attacks on democracy itself have essentially disqualified them as a legitimate political party.

In terms of lead's influence: My assumption has been simply that lead and mercury in the air caused a minor, yet statistically significant, impairment of cognitive ability which has robbed Boomers and much of GenX of their ability for both empathy and critical thinking. This has led to a swath of the population who is more susceptible to totalitarian messaging which always include intense hatred of others, conspiracies and wild accusations.

To paraphrase an old cliche: All Republicans are NOT lead-poisoned racist sociopaths that think Putin is a great leader, the virus is a hoax, the election was a fraud, etc. However, the reverse, is obviously quite accurate.

Re: Lead exposure in last century shrunk IQ scores of half of Americans: study

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Saying they do no psychological harm is quite am extreme statement and is just blatantly untrue. I tend to agree that these drugs should be dicriminalized, but you're doing the exact same thing thats been done with marijuana where the benefits of the drug are praised while the negatives are ignored.

Lack of guidance and cultural context leads to abuse of all sorts of substances. For all the ills of alcohol, there is at least (in the west) a degree of "acceptable usage" existing in society, something which almost every other recreational substance is currently missing.

I don't disagree, but that's not what was said.

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As a long time marijuana user I am leaning towards that view and I've ceased using it but largely "permanent" is wrong and its the same thinking that lead to war on drugs. In large doses, it can bring about negative effects especially in people with ADD but the bad parts are almost always gone after cessation. I don't think it It's that when you are in your teens and you start smoking marijuana, the risk is big but I…

Smoking (anything) is bad for your lungs, throat too.

Plenty of ways to use cannabis without smoking (combustion). Examples include edibles, vaporizers, suppositories, and topicals. You’ve heard of the nicotine patch but did you know they have THC patches?

Re: Lead exposure in last century shrunk IQ scores of half of Americans: study

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For context, leaded gasoline phase-out began in 1973, based on the 1970 Clean Air Act. It was largely gone in the US by the 80s but not officially eliminated (except for General Aviation) until 1996. Other countries continued to use leaded gasoline, largely in Africa and the Middle East; the UN started an effort in 2002 to eliminate it in those places still using it. In July 2021, the last stocks of leaded gasoline (in Algeria) were exhausted (probably literally).

Re: Lead exposure in last century shrunk IQ scores of half of Americans: study

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Black children had an adjusted 0.73 to 1.41 µg/dL more blood Pb (p https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7084658/

This recent case seems to correlate closely with that research:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-55330945 (Ella Adoo-Kissi-Debrah: Air pollution a factor in girl's death, inquest finds)

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/dec/16/girls-de...

Re: Lead exposure in last century shrunk IQ scores of half of Americans: study

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Adding this to the list of things IQ tests accurately predict: 1) school performance 2) job performance 3) income 4) crime rate 5) health and mortality 6) quantity of lead exposed to 7) NOT intelligence

>3) income Hm, I know some obvious contradictions. Just saying.. not interested in discussing this.

every rule has its exception(s)
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