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Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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Post by betenoire »

latexr wrote: post #372
jll29 wrote: post #279

First of all, I'm sorry to learn the author got cancer; I wish her all the best and continued strength. Many contributors have already made good suggestions how to reduce the risk of getting cancer, or how to deal with it; but I found most posts quite _technical_. Speaking in general terms, cancer is not a disease like a common cold. The human body sooner or later is bound to decay, which pretty much starts once one…

> Being on this planet for a limited time period makes it more important to make the right choices, because we have only one life. The thought may be freeing to you, but many others become paralysed by it, obsessing about “the right choices” at every moment. An alternate view: it is because we only have one limited life that our choices don’t matter. We and everyone our choices touch will die, and nothing will have m…

Some things you do are for survival, of course you wouldn't do those in your final hour because survival isn't a concern anymore.

If on your last day, you want to spend it with loved ones, and say, in nature or with music, then that's how you should be trying spend your life in general.

It's a heuristic, no a literal instruction book.

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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Post by Gatsky »

giantg2 wrote: post #315
Gatsky wrote: post #294

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This evidence is preliminary and the odds ratios are small. Also, consider the very high prevalence of prostate cancer - it is implausible that STDs are a major or important cause.

HPV is extremely common, usually asymptomatic, and already known to contribute to other reproductive cancers. Why is it "implausible"? It seems this study at least shows it is plausible.

The effect is weak. The ubiquity of HPV infection should show a stronger association if it were important. It could contribute to a subset of prostate cancers, but this has not been proven beyond correlation. There are other issues - HPV related cancers like cervical cancer or head and neck cancer show an age related peak and decline, whereas prostate cancer incidence continues to rise with age.

But the HPV vaccine is certainly worth having for males that have not engaged in any sexual activity.

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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Post by falcolas »

kgran wrote: post #65
pharmakom wrote: post #21

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Cars have other issues such as noise pollution and road danger. Ban / substantially reduce both, please.

Also, uneconomical use of urban land.

> Also, uneconomical use of urban land.

Uh, like green spaces? Those aren't economically valuable, but they're immensely valuable to humans.

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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Post by tartoran »

I feel that currently I pull the lucky health lottery ticket on a constant basis since I am healthy but cannot afford a health insurrance in the US. Every time I hear of a cancer story I am horrified and reminded of how lucky I am but aware that my luck could run out at any moment. And how many of us there are…

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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Post by danuker »

samatman wrote: post #295
danuker wrote: post #181

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> the more egalitarian societies and health care systems As someone from Romania, I believe that is true. But since joining the EU, we've also seen changes in food laws, which have a large impact on health. For example, recently it became mandatory to label citrus fruit when it was treated with preservatives, to know whether the peel is edible. People used to consume the peel regardless; now more people are aware. Th…

Your last paragraph goes off the rails a bit, the diacetyl in ordinary butter is no better for your lungs than its synthetic equivalent. If there's a difference it's the amount of exposure, not whether the identical molecule comes from in vitro synthesis rather than in vivo.

Thank you, I did not know this. I know that factory workers exposed to concentrated diacetyl are more affected.

I suppose it matters how much of the flavor escapes into the air, but I did not know that it is naturally present in butter.

That said, butter comes with its own issues. For example, 14g/day is associated with a 1% reduction in life expectancy - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4927102/

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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Post by jvanderbot »

jll29 wrote: post #279

First of all, I'm sorry to learn the author got cancer; I wish her all the best and continued strength. Many contributors have already made good suggestions how to reduce the risk of getting cancer, or how to deal with it; but I found most posts quite _technical_. Speaking in general terms, cancer is not a disease like a common cold. The human body sooner or later is bound to decay, which pretty much starts once one…

I think more people are alive now than have ever lived.

I also think that means the next generation or two will have so many people on the planet that literally everyone who ever lived could still be alive and it would be the same.

Scarcity is not the problem. Death is so far inevitable, but it is not necessary.

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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Post by maerF0x0 »

loudtieblahblah wrote: post #263
AlexAffe wrote: post #149

She mentions a diet rich in Protein. Even Supplements like Whey Protein Shakes. I wonder how that extra growth fuel contributes to cancer cell growth. At the very instance kf cell division, there is a small chance of the cell going 'rogue', becoming a cancer cell. In all of our bodies, all of the time. Thankfully the chance is pretty slim, but when I train a lot and eat a lot of protein, then I will have a much highe…

stimulating/activating mTor and IGF-1, needed for muscle growth, will encourage cancer growth where applicable. overabundance of protein could certainly be at play. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6611156/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J91dVi6W6N4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg6tvKxS9FE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RMUFOvcUB8

It's particularly damning once you begin to age. To pull a number out of my ass and give a piece of advice we all should focus on reducing mTor by 40.

David sinclair has a bunch of great material on the subject. On his own youtube channel, in talks with others.

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

catchclose8919 wrote: post #204

This is one of the things where it matters more how healthy/unpolluted your environment is . I'd dare to say that a not-so-phisically-active moderate-smoker living in a less polluted environment has way lower cancer risk than a bio-vegan athlete buddhist monk living in a polluted industrial hellhole. I'd wish we lived in a world where we could actually address chemical, air-particulate +/- microplastics pollution ser…

Hydro capacity is limited from how much water is coming down from the mountains. With global warming, it is about to be much more limited. China trying to tap some of the last great untapped hydro reserves left in the world (in Tibet) could also have serious environmental consequences for India and Southeast Asia (not just wildlife, but people who need water to farm and live). Dams are not purely virtuous.

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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Post by Broken_Hippo »

WinterMount223 wrote: post #318
Broken_Hippo wrote: post #151

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Pretty much everyone has some cancer in their family. Cancer is really common. You won't always know there was cancer, though: How often do you hear about Grandpa's prostate or that mole your cousin had removed?

That’s always shared among the family. Don’t know where you are from.

No, it most definitely isn't. I'm originally from the US, by the way. The midwest, if that helps. Some families will talk about it, others don't, and a lot will pass on talking about it if it was 'no big deal'. So the weird mole? Yeah, you probably didn't hear. You especially didn't hear if it was your cousin. Not everyone will talk about their prostate, especially folks more embarrassed about bodily functions or anuses. A lot of prostate cancer doesn't require treatment, after all, and no reason to talk about it. If your great grandmother had cancer, you probably don't know, especially if she died from a heart attack or stroke. Doubly so if your parents and grandparents are still alive and have not had cancer.

And yes, I've met all sorts of folks like this. I worked in a pharmacy for years.

You just assume everyone will talk about such things.

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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Post by maerF0x0 »

loudtieblahblah wrote: post #271
NiceWayToDoIT wrote: post #193

> "All the money in the world can’t buy you perfect health, and it is crazy how many just ignore it. Small changes to diet and physical activity can go a long way in improving health." This is so confusing for me, with the sense of helplessness, so she saying small change to diet or physical activity, and that she was healthiest person in world but still got sick, so what is the point than ?! I mean you can do everyt…

overabumdmace of protein could certainly be at play. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6611156/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J91dVi6W6N4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg6tvKxS9FE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RMUFOvcUB8 People think they're healthy bc they're doing what fitness gurus or "smart sounding" pro-PUFA types like you see a round here on HackerNews all the time, say. Want to prevent cancer…

I'll pile on the pieces i've gathered from various sources (will just list names, we can google/youtube them). I'm extremely unqualified to give medical advice, but it's the path I'm personally following.

Expose yourself to heat shock[1] or cold shock[2] to increase memetics and sirtuins

Give your body a chance to clean up after mTor & IGF -- have low protein days (~ [1] - peter attia on sauna usage [2] - wim hoff on cold exposure (i dont care for his breathing stuff, personally)

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