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I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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My sincere admiration for the author's strength in the face of this terrible hardship. A person can also avoid cancer by choosing a career that is not cancer-inducing. Given the author's cabin crew history: 3.4% of female flight attendants reported having had breast cancer compared with 2.3% of women in the general population group 2.2% of female flight attendants reported having had melanoma skin cancer compared wit…

Hmm could this also be because they have to get through the x-ray scanners more often than regular travellers?

It's caused by frequent air travel. While flying, there is less atmospheric shielding against cosmic ray radiation compared to being on the ground. Even though you get less radiation from an average flight than from medical x-ray, it adds up.

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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UK here for context. We only have to fast for 12-24 hours prior to the colonoscopy. You can drink water or plain tea (no sugar, cream or milk). They offer "gas and air" mainly. You don't even have to have that. You are fully awake during the procedure, laughing at the live HD video feed from inside you on the big screen. You can be fully anaesthetised but that's very rare here in the UK. After the appointment, it's a…

> UK here for context. We only have to fast for 12-24 hours prior to the colonoscopy. You can drink water or plain tea (no sugar, cream or milk). Are you saying you only have to fast, without laxatives/prep? How does that work? I find it hard to imagine that anyone's colon is clean enough to get a good view after only fasting for a day?

Based on how much my need for toilet paper depends on what I’ve been eating recently, I suspect diet makes a massive difference to how clean you are inside.

Not sure how waiting longer than 24 hours is going to get you much cleaner in any case.

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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This is one of the things where it matters more how healthy/unpolluted your environment is . I'd dare to say that a not-so-phisically-active moderate-smoker living in a less polluted environment has way lower cancer risk than a bio-vegan athlete buddhist monk living in a polluted industrial hellhole. I'd wish we lived in a world where we could actually address chemical, air-particulate +/- microplastics pollution ser…

I expected after COVID there would be much more focus on air control/monitoring. How nice would it be to have constant air measurements in neighbourhoods and inside houses. And not only CO particles, but a wide variety. Unfortunately I see hardly any focus on it anymore.

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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Individually, a person can reduce their cancer risk with a few things like not smoking, and avoiding sunburns, etc. but that does not eliminate the risk of cancer. It's not a disease that primarily comes from unhealthy living. That said, there is a toooon of cancer that we can prevent as a society though better public health messaging and better environmental laws, such as creating housing and cities that ban cars, s…

My sincere admiration for the author's strength in the face of this terrible hardship. A person can also avoid cancer by choosing a career that is not cancer-inducing. Given the author's cabin crew history: 3.4% of female flight attendants reported having had breast cancer compared with 2.3% of women in the general population group 2.2% of female flight attendants reported having had melanoma skin cancer compared wit…

reported is the important word. and those populations are not equivalent.

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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Individually, a person can reduce their cancer risk with a few things like not smoking, and avoiding sunburns, etc. but that does not eliminate the risk of cancer. It's not a disease that primarily comes from unhealthy living. That said, there is a toooon of cancer that we can prevent as a society though better public health messaging and better environmental laws, such as creating housing and cities that ban cars, s…

And not forget to ban all fastfood from society. No coca cola, no burgers, no sweets. Healthy diets obligation for everyone.

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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You consider 1 in 500 high? That's only 0.2%. At that rate, assuming the probability of complication for each procedure is independent from all the others, you could undergo the procedure 20 times with only about a 4% chance of complication. Since the American Cancer Society only recommends colonoscopy every 10 years, starting at age 45, most people wouldn't even have 5 procedures done in a lifetime, which would give…

It would be one thing if you were to have done that math to show "the risk of colon cancer is so high that this decision is worth it"--and to be clear: maybe it is!--but the idea that you simply don't find a 1% chance of a complication to be a big deal as the absolute number looks small to you (as opposed to making some relative comparison to the rate of preventable cancer) horrifies me... and, for your sake, I hope…

You have roughly a 4% chance of developing colorectal cancer in your lifetime: https://www.cancer.org/cancer/colon-rectal-cancer/about/key-...

Amazingly, the American Cancer Society had already done that calculation when they made their recommendation to get scoped once every 10 years.

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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First explanation seems to be easy to verify. RCT with two groups of (similar demographic) people. Everyone is given a full body checkup for finding cancer. Half of them are treated for any cancer found and the other half are left as is. Check the longevity and status of cancer in both groups.

> and the other half are left as is. Is that ethically acceptable?

At some point in our past, we might have considered a trial to “treat half the group with leeches and skip that care for the others”.

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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This is one of the things where it matters more how healthy/unpolluted your environment is . I'd dare to say that a not-so-phisically-active moderate-smoker living in a less polluted environment has way lower cancer risk than a bio-vegan athlete buddhist monk living in a polluted industrial hellhole. I'd wish we lived in a world where we could actually address chemical, air-particulate +/- microplastics pollution ser…

> a polluted industrial hellhole

Doesn't have to be industrial. Just any city full of cars will do.

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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This is one of the things where it matters more how healthy/unpolluted your environment is . I'd dare to say that a not-so-phisically-active moderate-smoker living in a less polluted environment has way lower cancer risk than a bio-vegan athlete buddhist monk living in a polluted industrial hellhole. I'd wish we lived in a world where we could actually address chemical, air-particulate +/- microplastics pollution ser…

On a population wide evaluation, you are correct. However, some people are just more susceptible. It's complex, but if you just take a simplistic view of a single gene becoming cancerous, some people are only 1 mutation away and others are hundreds.

100% correct, but...this is the type of rhetoric that some industries employ to "muddy the waters" when they want to lobby against banning certain chemicals or processes.

Start with "it's complex" and "some people are just more susceptible" and you have a great platform for arguing against eg. banning lead-additived gasoline.

Then add the shifting away of blame from industry and corporations to individuals, sprinkle some "focus on what you can do" (eg. the "ban plastic straws" type useless token-gesture) or "it's that little things" and you get exactly the kinds of stuff industry is currently gaslighting us with, distracting us from high-impact but profit-lowering big measures that could be implemented instead!

Nuanced thinking can be weaponized against you just as well as black-and-white oversimplification...

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