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I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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> There is nothing one can do to avoid disease eventually. You can move where this cancer is rare. https://ourworldindata.org/cancer#the-prevalence-of-cancer-a... Or better yet, optimize for a total healthy lifespan, not just against cancer: https://ourworldindata.org/burden-of-disease#the-global-dist...

These are really interesting maps, but I'm missing a few important data points. For the cancer one, I feel like it's misleading. E.g. Russia and Central Africa might be low in cancer because of their low life expectancy, and Central Africa additionally because of its majority black population (which I assume to be less prone to skin cancer). As a white person, I believe it would be a mistake to move to Central Africa…

> the more egalitarian societies and health care systems

As someone from Romania, I believe that is true. But since joining the EU, we've also seen changes in food laws, which have a large impact on health.

For example, recently it became mandatory to label citrus fruit when it was treated with preservatives, to know whether the peel is edible. People used to consume the peel regardless; now more people are aware.

There is also an important difference between "flavorings" and "natural flavorings". For instance, artificial butter flavoring causes "popcorn lung".

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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In our modern societies there are lots of cancer risk involved that (most) people can not see. For example using a microwave with microscopic cracks in the glass and staying nearby. All the diesel particles and exhaust car fumes and tire dust in the cities. The terrible air quality near maritime ports because of the bad quality ships do with ultra cheap fuels. The extermination of gut microbiota with the use of pesti…

Most of these examples are fear-mongering without evidence.

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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In our modern societies there are lots of cancer risk involved that (most) people can not see. For example using a microwave with microscopic cracks in the glass and staying nearby. All the diesel particles and exhaust car fumes and tire dust in the cities. The terrible air quality near maritime ports because of the bad quality ships do with ultra cheap fuels. The extermination of gut microbiota with the use of pesti…

> Genetically engineered food that is flooded in pesticides

Nhaa, I don't think so. Glyphosate residue are not a real concern for me.

Other things that are way higher on my list, that are considered "natural":

Sun exposure

Radeon gas

Alcohol and tobacco consumption

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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In our modern societies there are lots of cancer risk involved that (most) people can not see. For example using a microwave with microscopic cracks in the glass and staying nearby. All the diesel particles and exhaust car fumes and tire dust in the cities. The terrible air quality near maritime ports because of the bad quality ships do with ultra cheap fuels. The extermination of gut microbiota with the use of pesti…

Why does the glass matter in a microwave oven? I thought the metal box (and the metal mesh) was enough to block.

Even then, why would it cause cancer? Microwaves are long wavelength and should only heat things.

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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I think healthy/unhealthy is not just about "very healthy diet, good fitness routine, good sleep, low stress, and no other health issues" It's actually also about regularly stressing your body with things like cold/hot exposure (using natural elements/seasons), for example a pragmatic daily fitness (for example commuting with a bike) instead of a more 'artificial' fitness in a gym, an organic diet foraged yourself (w…

How much can you forage in North USA or Europe outside season, and, regardless of season - without getting in troubles with law?

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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In our modern societies there are lots of cancer risk involved that (most) people can not see. For example using a microwave with microscopic cracks in the glass and staying nearby. All the diesel particles and exhaust car fumes and tire dust in the cities. The terrible air quality near maritime ports because of the bad quality ships do with ultra cheap fuels. The extermination of gut microbiota with the use of pesti…

The biggest one is probably stress from worrying about all the things that you might be exposed to that might be carcinogenic.

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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In our modern societies there are lots of cancer risk involved that (most) people can not see. For example using a microwave with microscopic cracks in the glass and staying nearby. All the diesel particles and exhaust car fumes and tire dust in the cities. The terrible air quality near maritime ports because of the bad quality ships do with ultra cheap fuels. The extermination of gut microbiota with the use of pesti…

Do you have peer-reviewed citations to back these points up?

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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In our modern societies there are lots of cancer risk involved that (most) people can not see. For example using a microwave with microscopic cracks in the glass and staying nearby. All the diesel particles and exhaust car fumes and tire dust in the cities. The terrible air quality near maritime ports because of the bad quality ships do with ultra cheap fuels. The extermination of gut microbiota with the use of pesti…

These are very strong claims. Any references?

(For example freezing can destroy cells and tissue, but how can it destroy molecules? Microwaves are non-ionizing so how can they give you cancer? Plus someone already mentioned that it's the metal mesh behind the glass - a Faraday cage - that keeps the microwaves inside.)

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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In our modern societies there are lots of cancer risk involved that (most) people can not see. For example using a microwave with microscopic cracks in the glass and staying nearby. All the diesel particles and exhaust car fumes and tire dust in the cities. The terrible air quality near maritime ports because of the bad quality ships do with ultra cheap fuels. The extermination of gut microbiota with the use of pesti…

> using a microwave with microscopic cracks in the glass and staying nearby

No, this is false. Microwave are non-ionizing radiation, and microscopic cracks in the glass won't do anything. Maybe large cracks in the metal mesh under the glass would allow a bit of micro waves to come off, which you might be able to feel as heat would be transferred, but since this is non-ionizing, it would be exactly the same thing as your hear heating up if you stay on a cell-phone for a long time. Just heat.

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does the glass matter in a microwave oven? I thought the metal box (and the metal mesh) was enough to block.

I too am curious - if I had to speculate, maybe the crack is a high surface area for microwave scattering which means the rays escape the device so is an irradiation hazard? EDIT wavelength of microwaves is 1mm so could also be efficient diffraction Long time since I've had to think about these things... Unsure...

Microwave radiation is non-ionizing, it does not pose a cancer risk in the same sense that X-rays or UV light does. A quick DDG search found one article that matches GPs claim, but had zero citations and did not support any of its claims. I don’t know about the other claims, but the microwave cancer risk doesn’t make sense to me.
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